I think so, and I know a lot of albertans opinions back then was for them to get bent on that idea.
Oh yeah, because its a pure fantasy not based in any aspect of reality.
Its almost the very definition of 'wanting their cake and to eat it too.'
I'm just saying that its weird to disparage all Albertans as a collection of idiots when the people even marginally entertaining this nonsense are basically just walking in lock-step with the old Quebecois playbook.
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I haven't read much about it, but are any of these books actually in schools, or are they simply on the approved list. It seems a little sus that a list of books in American libraries are also physically in the libraries, here. Is this an actual thing, or are people getting worked up over the potential?
I couldn’t tell you if these books are in schools or not, my son isnt at that age yet. If you read the excerpts that were taken, they’re very gross (they’re quite honestly pornographic) and not something I’d want him to read until he has a better understanding of sexuality.
I don’t know if it’s just a ragebait survey or if these books are available to children, that’s why I’m not overly invested in the outcome.
I couldn’t tell you if these books are in schools or not, my son isnt at that age yet. If you read the excerpts that were taken, they’re very gross (they’re quite honestly pornographic) and not something I’d want him to read until he has a better understanding of sexuality.
I don’t know if it’s just a ragebait survey or if these books are available to children, that’s why I’m not overly invested in the outcome.
Unless the government reveals what school they found those books, I don't believe they did. I think they have made up a controversy to try to distract from all their other problems.
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It’s interesting because unilaterally using Canadian currency would seem to undercut many of the benefits of separatization. You maintain the stability, sure, but you give up control of your economy while damaging the economy you’re suddenly entirely reliant on. I wonder how many mistake this drawback as a benefit.
Wouldn't it also have a big impact on credit rating and investment climate? Alberta wouldn't have the economic lever of the central bank to backstop them in a crisis.
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I couldn’t tell you if these books are in schools or not, my son isnt at that age yet. If you read the excerpts that were taken, they’re very gross (they’re quite honestly pornographic) and not something I’d want him to read until he has a better understanding of sexuality.
I don’t know if it’s just a ragebait survey or if these books are available to children, that’s why I’m not overly invested in the outcome.
There's a small chance it's true, but a very high chance it's rage bait regardless when the premier says these are books that are 'being shown to students', implying they are actively promoted.
Unless the government reveals what school they found those books, I don't believe they did. I think they have made up a controversy to try to distract from all their other problems.
There's a thread on X with one of the government media guys pushing back on this so as to not dox the schools, but when asked for a simple count of schools...crickets.
Wouldn't it also have a big impact on credit rating and investment climate? Alberta wouldn't have the economic lever of the central bank to backstop them in a crisis.
It's theoretically similar to the Euro. This is how countries like Greece got into trouble: They had to satisfy the EU that they were taking actions to manage their debt (and that kind of thing) in order to get more money. If Canada were to have that issue, though, we would print more money, and the problem would be solved*.
(*Yes, I know there are other ramifications, and it causes a lot of other problems. I'm just giving that as a broad example of us controlling our currency and monetary policy!)
But yeah, this whole idea raises a host of economic issues. Companies with major operations here are not going to love it if it looks serious.
Amount of concern I would have with a book checked out at a school library. Zero.
Concern I would have with a child easily accessing 1.21 Jigawatts of porn or Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Tim Poole, the Tate brothers, etc. 100%
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Amount of concern I would have with a book checked out at a school library. Zero.
Concern I would have with a child easily accessing 1.21 Jigawatts of porn or Joe Rogan, Ben Shapiro, Tim Poole, the Tate brothers, etc. 100%
My cousin was telling me how she has had to ban their 10 year old from Youtube a couple times.
"he started just watching videos about fortnite, but now he will spend hours on their and will come downstairs angry at the world and mad at his sister and will scream that his life sucks!"
My response was "He's watching that Andrew Tate incel crap, guaranteed"
I'm pretty sure Smith is happy Carney and the Liberals are in power, because she can now continue to spin the federal boogyman for her next election, and Alberta cons will continue to lap it up.
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I'm pretty sure Smith is happy Carney and the Liberals are in power, because she can now continue to spin the federal boogyman for her next election, and Alberta cons will continue to lap it up.
This is pretty much a constant in Alberta politics - the Conservatives just have to be anti-Ottawa to win the support of most voters. Anyone who wants to see the UCP out of power in Alberta should hope for the CPC to win the next federal election.
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If Alberta ever did separate how long do you think it would take before they have to start begging to be let back into confederation? I would guess in 10 years when unemployment is soaring and there's no safety nets to speak of. My prediction is that Alberta quickly becomes Venezuela.
-Our GDP drops immediately by 10%-20% as national and international companies divest their Albertan interests.
-Infighting between separatists and non-separatists causes national breakdowns in the new country
-We run up huge deficits in the first 3 years setting up government services that the feds used to provide, policing, tax collection, retirements, military and other social services. This eats through all of our equalization money that we're "saving"
-Brain drain is palpable, healthcare and other notable professions leave in droves
-Government goes to state of emergency, no more elections
-Oil prices collapse, the price differential on WCS skyrockets when both BC and the US put the screws to Alberta as they're a landlocked country with 0 leverage
-Massive unemployment and poverty leads to increased crime
-Population crash as people jump off the sinking ship
-Alberta experiences hyperinflation and becomes destitute
Finally they beg to be let back into confederation.
I think the morons believe without "federal interference" that we'd just start pumping oil for immediate profit, but they don't see the decade plus it'd take to get there. First we don't have a lot of excess pipeline capacity, so we'd need to build more of those, to somewhere, somehow.
We also don't have convectional oil wells sitting there shut in due to Federal interference, so the path would be oilsands. Mines are multi-decade development projects. They aren't happening in year one. SAGD has already hit most of the sweet spots, so it's incremental gains there, too(if you believe they are also hampered by the feds and not just limited economically).
So it's a decade plus before any potential benefits, but you have to deal with the domestic issues like funding healthcare, police, defence(America ain't doin' it for free) and all manner of things independent countries require. People pretend this can be funded by the money we send to Ottawa and don't get back, but I think that's a big overestimate, and ignores the reality of the financial hit we'll take when the issues Indes bring up hit.
There is no plan within the separatist movement. They openly admit in their townhalls that a portion of them want to join the states, a portion want to be their own country and a portion of them don't want to separate at all, but want to be able to use it as a negotiation tactic.
I'm not opposed to them gaining a foothold in our provincial legislature over a period of time to flesh out their charter, but the fact that they will get a referendum with this level of disorganization is an awful idea.
Smith feels like she must entertain it though because she is afraid of the former option.
