03-13-2013, 12:32 PM
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#2481
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Edmonton
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Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
If Graham did end up bringing a lawsuit, and in the future Graham bid on city projects, they city wouldn't not consider Graham for larger projects if their bid was the best. If the city was other wise going to use Graham in the future because they were $5 million cheaper than anyone else, and the city figured they were capable of doing the work, council would grant an exception if needed.
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I have never bid on City of Calgary work, but I have bid on work with other municipalities in Alberta. Some of them have pretty clear methods for determining the winning bid. They assign points to the bid based on many categories and then total the points to pick the winner.
Some of the categories are: price, schedule, innovation, environmental, safety, man power, past history.
They could give Graham a lower score in past history but if they were better at everything else they could still win the bid.
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03-13-2013, 01:05 PM
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#2482
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GP_Matt
I have never bid on City of Calgary work, but I have bid on work with other municipalities in Alberta. Some of them have pretty clear methods for determining the winning bid. They assign points to the bid based on many categories and then total the points to pick the winner.
Some of the categories are: price, schedule, innovation, environmental, safety, man power, past history.
They could give Graham a lower score in past history but if they were better at everything else they could still win the bid.
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That seems very different than what is being proposed here (i.e., complete disqualification of a firm if they have launched legal action against the city.) Secondly, presumably "past history" should refer to quality of work, not whether a commercial dispute happened to arise (which can happen for many reasons, many totally out of the control of one or either of the parties.)
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03-13-2013, 02:09 PM
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#2483
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
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... and in an election year... No wondering about the timing here.
I'm sure this will be resolved quickly, quietly and before October.
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03-13-2013, 02:13 PM
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#2484
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
... and in an election year... No wondering about the timing here.
I'm sure this will be resolved quickly, quietly and before October.
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You are such a cynic.
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03-13-2013, 02:21 PM
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#2485
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Personally, I think it should be the City going after the contractors for money. The surface bumps and undulations on the the red structural portion remind me of a teenagers face. Was there no quality control whatsoever?
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03-13-2013, 02:21 PM
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#2486
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by First Lady
... and in an election year... No wondering about the timing here.
I'm sure this will be resolved quickly, quietly and before October.
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The Peace Bridge came well before Nenshi became mayor, well before the 2010 election. It was an issue at that time, if it's an issue again... jesus christ... 
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03-13-2013, 02:23 PM
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#2487
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Table 5
Personally, I think it should be the City going after the contractors for money. The surface bumps and undulations on the the red structural portion remind me of a teenagers face. Was there no quality control whatsoever?
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03-13-2013, 02:28 PM
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#2488
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Basement Chicken Choker
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In a land without pants, or war, or want. But mostly we care about the pants.
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Originally Posted by Table 5
The surface bumps and undulations on the the red structural portion remind me of a teenagers face.
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For one second I thought I had mis-clicked into the reddit thread again.
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03-13-2013, 03:42 PM
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#2489
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
The Peace Bridge came well before Nenshi became mayor, well before the 2010 election. It was an issue at that time, if it's an issue again... jesus christ... |
I think it's a cautionary tale to a city council next time they try to force an expensive luxury item through that the majority of the city opposed. They brought this on themselves.
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03-13-2013, 03:49 PM
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#2490
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think it's a cautionary tale to a city council next time they try to force an expensive luxury item through that the majority of the city opposed.
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Just because there were a lot of people whining about it doesn't mean they represent the majority. I'd be willing to be a lot of people were, and still are, huge supporters of us getting a well-designed pedestrian bridge. What you consider a luxury, a lot of people consider a necessity of a city growing up into something better.
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03-13-2013, 03:50 PM
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#2491
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think it's a cautionary tale to a city council next time they try to force an expensive luxury item through that the majority of the city opposed. They brought this on themselves.
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That would be a sad outcome. We need to keep investing in things that make the city better, not get scared off by one bad experience.
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03-13-2013, 03:53 PM
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#2492
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If the city wants to develop into something better, structures like the peace bridge need to be built. It is a small piece of the puzzle, but for a city with growth potential like Calgary, it is a good part of the puzzle.
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03-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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#2493
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think it's a cautionary tale to a city council next time they try to force an expensive luxury item through that the majority of the city opposed. They brought this on themselves.
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In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't all that expensive.
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03-13-2013, 08:23 PM
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#2494
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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I resurrected this thread with the news today and felt guilty, how could I do this to my favourite bridge in Calgary?
So I took advantage of this beautiful evening and gave the bridge some love:
Peace Bridge by BigtimeYYC, on Flickr
Peace Bridge by BigtimeYYC, on Flickr
Peace Bridge by BigtimeYYC, on Flickr
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03-13-2013, 08:51 PM
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#2495
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: 110
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I think it's a cautionary tale to a city council next time they try to force an expensive luxury item through that the majority of the city opposed. They brought this on themselves.
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Agreed. They better think of this before they green light the next $60m interchange at MacLeod Trail and 19734927348 Avenue.
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03-13-2013, 09:01 PM
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#2496
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by fotze
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Didn't become aware of the legal action until later.
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03-13-2013, 09:11 PM
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#2497
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
Didn't become aware of the legal action until later.
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And its now certainly best if you don't talk about the legal action now (as I'm sure you already know. )
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"Life of Russian hockey veterans is very hard," said Soviet hockey star Sergei Makarov. "Most of them don't have enough to eat these days. These old players are Russian legends."
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03-13-2013, 09:16 PM
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#2498
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Lifetime Suspension
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It's so pretty, Calgary got a deal.
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03-13-2013, 09:24 PM
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#2499
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Makarov
And its now certainly best if you don't talk about the legal action now (as I'm sure you already know. )
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I suppose it's currently a submission of a request, not a legal action.
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03-13-2013, 09:32 PM
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#2500
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
I resurrected this thread with the news today and felt guilty, how could I do this to my favourite bridge in Calgary?
So I took advantage of this beautiful evening and gave the bridge some love:
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Were you out there taking pictures through the broken panes tonight? If so, I saw you.
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