Smartest thing I ever did was buy a lot of 1000 plastic bags from Future Shop when they went tits up and were selling everything in their stores. They've been liners for bathroom garbages for years, the bags I put stuff in for my customers at work and now, I guess, will be what I put my fast food in.
But the bylaw is so fkn stupid. Give me a GD paper bag at McDonald's. Handing a bunch of sht one at a time from the drive through window does not work. It's totally ridiculous.
This council is the worst and they have the worst ideas.
I will admit that the paper bag for drive-thrus is probably a necessity for most.
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Everyone has them. It’s just a few people who make a big deal about forgetting them and having to buy more. If you just went shopping with your partner, one of you could go out and fetch them before you could to the checkout. I dunno, that’s just me.
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So just get a few and stop forgetting them in your car?
I don't think you're understandng the point being made. One reusable bag -- in its lifecycle -- is worth anywhere from hundreds to thousands of compostable ones in terms of its environmental impact when looking at its complete start-to-finish lifecycle. The SciShow episode talking about it was literally shared in this exact thread.
Getting a 'few' makes the problem even worse. For grocery store runs, I keep rolls of the Co-Op disposable bags in my map pocket and remember them no problem because they're the most compact option and easily hidden away. I hate keeping stuff randomly floating around in my car otherwise.
I don't think you're understandng the point being made. One reusable bag -- in its lifecycle -- is worth anywhere from hundreds to thousands of compostable ones in terms of its environmental impact when looking at its complete start-to-finish lifecycle. The SciShow episode talking about it was literally shared in this exact thread.
Getting a 'few' makes the problem even worse. For grocery store runs, I keep rolls of the Co-Op disposable bags in my map pocket and remember them no problem because they're the most compact option and easily hidden away. I hate keeping stuff randomly floating around in my car otherwise.
I use those big blue superstore bins, each one must contain the plastic of at least 1,000 regular grocery bags. My bins are old and I have taped them up to stop/slow the cracking, but there is no way they will last until their 1000th re-use (or even 200th re-use, if you assume each would hold the capacity of 5 regular bags). Of course I've also started to buy garbage bags now for my bin, so at least in my case the environment is worse off.
Edit: Convenience wise, I do prefer the bins to bags as I can load and unload much quicker.
How does this work at Five Guys who are famous for putting most of your fries actually in the bag? Do you now have to pay 15 cents for this or you just don't get half your fries?
How does this work at Five Guys who are famous for putting most of your fries actually in the bag? Do you now have to pay 15 cents for this or you just don't get half your fries?
You have to pay the 15c. I had a good chat with one of their workers about it, the poor woman told me people are up in arms and giving them a lot of negative feedback. Not her fault.
Everyone has them. It’s just a few people who make a big deal about forgetting them and having to buy more. If you just went shopping with your partner, one of you could go out and fetch them before you could to the checkout. I dunno, that’s just me.
Then why can’t stores just make them available individually at the checkout like they used to? If we’re cool with people buying compostable bags when they forget their reusable ones, why make them go to an aisle and buy a whole box of them? What purpose does that serve?
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I don't think you're understandng the point being made. One reusable bag -- in its lifecycle -- is worth anywhere from hundreds to thousands of compostable ones in terms of its environmental impact when looking at its complete start-to-finish lifecycle. The SciShow episode talking about it was literally shared in this exact thread.
Getting a 'few' makes the problem even worse. For grocery store runs, I keep rolls of the Co-Op disposable bags in my map pocket and remember them no problem because they're the most compact option and easily hidden away. I hate keeping stuff randomly floating around in my car otherwise.
Here is that video again. I assuming that these guys are reasonably accurate, I don't really see them as being in the pocket of "big plastic".
Having to use cotton bags more than 7,000 (45+ years for the same bag) or 20,000 (for "organic" cotton) times isn't really going to happen I don't think. We ordered take out today from a local restaurant we like to support, they already had bagged it in those reusable cotton bags when I arrived with my own bags. But the soup base spilled within and now it's half white and half pho soup stained. Do I wash this? What is the additional water/electrical/detergent pollution cost by doing so?
EDIT: The number of times needed for re-usable bags is crazy enough but the Safeway collapsible black boxes must be planet killers. They are very useful though like the Superstore plastic bins I guess.
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I can't be the only one that ends up with a collection of these bags and throws half a dozen out every six months, can I?
Like, I don't need super ugly loudly branded bags clogging up my life. I re-use them as best I can, but you can very easily end up with too many and then, I guess, you just chuck 'em. That's what I do, anyway.
There is no way on god's green earth this bylaw is accomplishing what they're trying to make it accomplish. What was so bad about paper bag, anyway?
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I can't be the only one that ends up with a collection of these bags and throws half a dozen out every six months, can I?
Like, I don't need super ugly loudly branded bags clogging up my life. I re-use them as best I can, but you can very easily end up with too many and then, I guess, you just chuck 'em. That's what I do, anyway.
There is no way on god's green earth this bylaw is accomplishing what they're trying to make it accomplish. What was so bad about paper bag, anyway?
I like to throw them out as soon as I've unpacked the groceries, just to make sure there's no increase in clutter.
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I had always assumed that everyone just used their grocery bags for garbage bags. I was always fairly net neutral on plastic bags and they all got two uses out of them. I know by small plastic garbage bags for the kitchen. I have increased my plastic consumption as the result of the various bylaws.
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I don't know about increase but ours certainly hasn't decreased. Same story, we now buy garbage bags for the small garbage's when we used to use Safeway bags. We certainly throw out more reusable bags than single use bags over the course of a year.
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