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Old 07-21-2025, 11:06 AM   #24821
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Compared with 30 or 40 years ago, we have year-round access to an abundance of relatively cheap produce. And we have it because the produce has been bred for shipping, regularity, and longevity on the shelf. In many cases, that came at the cost of flavour. Most tomatoes on the shelf at Safeway don’t taste like much of anything.
Actually, we have access fresh local tomatoes in January because Alberta has a nice little greenhouse industry.

If you buying imported beefsteaks in January, it’s going to taste like an imported beefsteak.

I can walk into any grocery store and select roma, cherry, or vine tomatoes that are full of flavour. Maybe you have an issue impacting your taste?
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Actually, we have access fresh local tomatoes in January because Alberta has a nice little greenhouse industry.

If you buying imported beefsteaks in January, it’s going to taste like an imported beefsteak.

I can walk into any grocery store and select roma, cherry, or vine tomatoes that are full of flavour. Maybe you have an issue impacting your taste?
I know I can.

But none of what you said contradicts the reality that for commercial reasons much of the produce on shelves today has less flavour than was the case 30 years ago. So the muggles out there who aren’t as savvy as you are eating produce that is less flavourful.
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I know I can.

But none of what you said contradicts the reality that for commercial reasons much of the produce on shelves today has less flavour than was the case 30 years ago. So the muggles out there who aren’t as savvy as you are eating produce that is less flavourful.
Sorry, but this just plain wrong. I've been grocery shopping since ####ing 1992 and it has absolutely gotten better.

And yeah, you have know what you're getting. Sorry that requires work on your part, maybe the NDP can provide you with a food picker.
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What an interesting way to focus on the wrong part and ignore that we literally lose taste buds as we age. Classic I love it.
No no Res, it’s definitely a coordinated attack from Big Melons to make watermelon smaller and more bland for better profit margins.
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I have no idea what you're trying to say. I am making fun of people that think they're affected by gluten when they really have no idea because they've never actually been truly tested.
I think we're in violent agreement with each other; those people are annoying as hell, especially when they lie and claim it's an allergy because the kitchen is then on high-alert until their order is out.

Although one could make the argument that the proliferation of all these false glutards has resulted in an increase in gluten-free options being made available, and improvements in the taste and quality of those options... they're still awful, but less awful.

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Old 07-21-2025, 11:24 AM   #24826
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I know I can.

But none of what you said contradicts the reality that for commercial reasons much of the produce on shelves today has less flavour than was the case 30 years ago. So the muggles out there who aren’t as savvy as you are eating produce that is less flavourful.
I’m not sure how savvy it is to buy the majority of the tomatoes that are actually stocked on the shelves, but I guess I am pretty great.

How old were you 40 years ago that you recall such a shift? Are you sure it isn’t an aging/medical issue?
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Sorry, but this just plain wrong. I've been grocery shopping since ####ing 1992 and it has absolutely gotten better.
Sorry, gotta go with the scientists again on this one.

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For one thing, the food we grow has less flavor than it used to. Fruits, vegetables, meat—they've all become more and more bland over the past 60 years.

Harry Klee recently measured the flavor of 60 modern tomato varieties against 300 heirloom tomatoes, most of which date back to before World War II, and found across-the-board flavor diminishment. For example, the flavor compounds “methional” and “geranylacetone,” both of which contribute to the delectability of tomatoes, are down by two thirds in the modern group. “Guaiacol” and “2-methyl-1-butanol,” similarly, are down by half.

We have ourselves to blame. For the better part of a century, we have been selectively breeding tomatoes and other crops for money-making traits such as yield and shelf life, all the while ignoring flavor. Over countless generations, flavor has gotten lost. “It’s like reverse evolutionary pressure,” Klee says, “if you ignore flavor in your selection criteria, you will lose it.” Simply put, modern tomatoes don’t know how to be flavorful anymore.

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Most of the issue here is that you weirdos are eating tomatoes.
No sane person eats tomatoes.
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Personally, I like a bland tomato, so this is my time to shine.
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Sorry, but this just plain wrong. I've been grocery shopping since ####ing 1992 and it has absolutely gotten better.

And yeah, you have know what you're getting. Sorry that requires work on your part, maybe the NDP can provide you with a food picker.
Trotting out “####ing 1992” as a flex on this forum is humorous.
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Sorry, gotta go with the scientists again on this one.
The scientists that indicate this changed 70 years ago, not 30? And say, from an article ten years ago, that things were turning a corner and getting better?

Wouldn’t that suggest exactly what Shazam is saying, that tomatoes have actually gotten better in the last 30 years?
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Most of the issue here is that you weirdos are eating tomatoes.
No sane person eats tomatoes.
I’m proudly insane.
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I think we're in violent agreement with each other; those people are annoying as hell, especially when they lie and claim it's an allergy because the kitchen is then on high-alert until their order is out.

Although one could make the argument that the proliferation of all these false glutards has resulted in an increase in gluten-free options being made available, and improvements in the taste and quality of those options... they're still awful, but less awful.
The expansion of gluten free options has been great, except that so often now they cater to the glutards, because that is so much easier. "Oh, this Guinness Shepherds Pie on the menu says it's made with Guinness but also gluten free. Please explain."


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Or yesterday I was super excited to find this in Amaranth, because finding easy meals is hard.
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The expansion of gluten free options has been great, except that so often now they cater to the glutards, because that is so much easier. "Oh, this Guinness Shepherds Pie on the menu says it's made with Guinness but also gluten free. Please explain."


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