View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
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Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade
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16.80% |
Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better
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197 |
30.35% |
Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project
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187 |
28.81% |
Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back
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107 |
16.49% |
Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton
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7.55% |
07-24-2019, 03:39 PM
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#2461
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I think you're forgetting it was the Oilers.
Lucic wasn't even close to being their worst player.
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Regardless, even if he isn't their worse player, doesn't necessarily make him better than Neal.
Especially, as you so clearly said, they are the Oilers.
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07-24-2019, 03:46 PM
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#2462
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I doubt there is anything preventing Lucic from legally waiving it now.
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Flames brass is nothing but class though.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they haven’t even requested it yet.
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07-24-2019, 03:50 PM
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#2463
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary Satellite Community
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Flames brass is nothing but class though.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they haven’t even requested it yet.
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I certainly hope they have. Class has nothing to do with it. Its about prudent asset management.
I would hate to see us have to expose and lose a good young D man in expansion because we wanted to be "classy".
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07-24-2019, 03:50 PM
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#2464
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Regardless, even if he isn't their worse player, doesn't necessarily make him better than Neal.
Especially, as you so clearly said, they are the Oilers.
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From the Flames perspective Neal was way down the on forward depth chart because he couldn't fit into any usable role and at the end of the day he was sitting in the pressbox. Regardless what came back for him, he has even less value to the Flames if he spends his time in the pressbox.
It isn't the Flames problem that the Oilers roster is so terrible that he can be penciled in the top 6.
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07-24-2019, 03:51 PM
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#2465
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
I think the theory is, we helped them out by taking their worse player.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Well, it was our worse player and worse contract. Same for them.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Regardless, even if he isn't their worse player, doesn't necessarily make him better than Neal.
Especially, as you so clearly said, they are the Oilers.
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Are you doing that on purpose? Or is it to try and pull Textcritic in?
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07-24-2019, 03:51 PM
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#2466
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I'm confused. Why are the Flames asking anyone to waive their NTC for the expansion draft now?
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07-24-2019, 03:51 PM
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#2467
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
Regardless, even if he isn't their worse player, doesn't necessarily make him better than Neal.
Especially, as you so clearly said, they are the Oilers.
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If we're using last years stats alone, all of the metrics I've read here would suggest that Lucic is better than Neal... But time will tell, last year could have been an outlier for Neal and not the start of a downward trend and he scores 20-30 goals for the Oilers.
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07-24-2019, 03:53 PM
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#2468
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greyshep
I certainly hope they have. Class has nothing to do with it. Its about prudent asset management.
I would hate to see us have to expose and lose a good young D man in expansion because we wanted to be "classy".
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Good asset management is also keeping an asset happy. Not requesting them to waive a contractural right 2 years earlier than they need too. Lots will change between now and then.
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07-24-2019, 04:12 PM
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#2469
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Are you doing that on purpose? Or is it to try and pull Textcritic in?
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A lot of people don't know how to properly use 'worse' and 'worst'.
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07-24-2019, 05:43 PM
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#2470
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Originally Posted by jayswin
A lot of people don't know how to properly use 'worse' and 'worst'.
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Their the worse
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07-24-2019, 05:50 PM
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#2471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I thought someone shared a tweet showing the date when a player can waive the expansion draft... I can’t recall though. But I was under the impression the clause cannot be waived until fairly close to the expansion draft
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I was reading stuff about the Vegas expansion and one of the news stories mentioned that teams couldn't officially ask a player to agree to waive his NMC until January 1, 2017. The latest they could make the request was something like 48 hours before the lists had to be submitted.
It makes sense that the option is open prior to the trade deadline so that players with limited no-trade conditions on their contracts could be traded if necessary if the player refused to waive. We know that was an issue with Fleury the last time around. If he hadn't agreed to waive, the Pens would have likely moved him at the deadline (probably to the Flames) before the expansion draft.
As has been suggested many times already, I think it's highly-likely that Lucic and Treliving have a gentlemen's agreement that he will waive his NMC if asked in 2021, but they can't put it in writing until 2021.
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07-24-2019, 05:52 PM
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#2472
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
A lot of people don't know how to properly use 'worse' and 'worst'.
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Than we should thrust that Textcritic will call them out for better or for worst.
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07-24-2019, 05:53 PM
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#2473
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Are you doing that on purpose? Or is it to try and pull Textcritic in?
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Do you know what the words “even if” mean?
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07-24-2019, 05:56 PM
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#2474
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
A lot of people don't know how to properly use 'worse' and 'worst' English.
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07-24-2019, 05:58 PM
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#2475
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Than we should thrust that Textcritic will call them out for better or for worst.
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This is getting out of hand.
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07-24-2019, 05:59 PM
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#2476
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This is getting out of hand.
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I thrust you caught his other fun typos
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07-24-2019, 06:15 PM
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#2477
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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I honestly don’t understand how people get then and than wrong so often. They don’t sound the same. They’re not like there, their, and they’re.
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07-24-2019, 06:19 PM
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#2478
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Participant
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
I honestly don’t understand how people get then and than wrong so often. They don’t sound the same. They’re not like there, their, and they’re.
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They sound the same if you don’t talk good.
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07-24-2019, 06:21 PM
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#2479
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Toonage
I'm confused. Why are the Flames asking anyone to waive their NTC for the expansion draft now?
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To make some chicken littles on message boards and twitter feel better.
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07-24-2019, 06:31 PM
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#2480
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Are you doing that on purpose? Or is it to try and pull Textcritic in?
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I hear if you write “ Citirctxet” on a mirror, you will be able to split an infinitive
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