2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don't see it. Zadorov, Toffoli, and Lindholm are gone. Markstrom was almost traded.
I think it is quiet because Conroy threatened people if they leaked stuff lol.

This exactly. It sure seems like the shift away from Treliving's one man show resulted in a lot more leaks and Conroy and team have buttoned things up.

My guess is he is as hard at work at ever.

Whether it's truly a rebuild or not, I guess that is in the eye of the beholder. The Lindholm trade accomplished both. In addition to picks and prospects, he took on a player with more term and a higher AAV than the player sent out. As has been said by many, they're not planning to tear it down totally.

[The Fonz]

Philly is 5-7-1 since they lost Carter Hart, allowing 3.62 goals against per game in that time.

NJ can catch them. Or, maybe we should be sending Markstrom to Philly.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Groot

People have been betting on the Sabres and Senators taking all their high-end skill and youth becoming a contender for a few years. People would've bet that extending Schiefle and Hellebyuck was the wrong move for the Jets and they should have rebuilt. Vancouver missed the playoffs, made a coaching change, and are now a top team. Nobody would've bet on that.

Betting over multiple years is a crap shoot at best. Just ask Iginla.

Sure, but the Flames are guaranteed to be bad. Marsktrom is deciding betwene the Flames and New Jersey and maybe LA or Carolina

[bluejays]

Got a score update that Lebrun said that Dallas is in on Tanev. I’d ship both Tanev and Hanifin if it meant getting their better prospects. Skeptical of Nill parting with the better ones though.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Reign of Fire

In before Sec drops the "ship has sailed" gif.

Based on everything, NJ leaked the trade before both teams agreed to the compensation for the retention, and now NJ is too far out of the playoffs. Why would Markstrom waive if they are just as likely to miss the playoffs as the Flames?

I just don’t post

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Got to strike when the market is hot. Feels like an offseason thing now. They should make Markstrom the backup down the stretch and ride Vladar. Markstrom playing too well lol

Why are you so dead set on the Flames missing the playoffs?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Sandman

If we were to deal with the Rangers, a player that I've suggested before as a possible return is 6'3", 210lb LW Will Cuylle. He's a good skater, plays a physical game with hits aplenty, and will drop his gloves if necessary. He's still finding his way, and developing his game, but he's got a legit chance to be a top-6 player one day. He has a hell of a shot, too.

Dylan Holloway is a Calgary boy, and is fast with a physical game- I still love this kid, even if he never turns into a top-6 player.

Ridly Greig is only a 6-footer, but he's tough, mean, physical, and agitates (as we've seen recently).

Trent Frederic is 25, but he's big (6'3",220), physical, skates well, and will drop the gloves with anyone. He's coming in to his own this season, with 34 points in 59 games so far.

The Sens are apparently shopping former Hitman, 24 year-old, 6'4"C Mark Kastelic, who isn't the best skater, but is industrious and hard-working, excellent in faceoffs, physical, and willing to fight.

St.Louis has a D-man by the name of Tyler Tucker, who is 6'1", 205lbs, 23 years old, and is a bottom-pair defenseman. He skates well, plays heavy, and agitates- will drop the gloves too. Not much offense, but he can move the puck. 16 games, 27 PIM.

Paul Cotter from LV. 6'2",213lbs, 19 points in 57 games, with 37 PIM. He always impresses me.

These are great suggestions for the flames to target to bring in more muscle next year. They’re playing really well when physical so I think adding players that complement that style will be beneficial… also adds to the entertainment during a rebuild. During the 2013-2014 season when the flames were bottoming out in their last rebuild, they had a lot of physical players and established themselves that season as the “hardest working team in hockey”. They did not win much and had a bottom five finish in the league, but teams felt it after they came to play the flames that year. I remember it being really entertaining hockey.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why are you so dead set on the Flames missing the playoffs?

They will have two top 4 dmen, a maybe in Kylington, and a weak forward core with no game breakers.

If they try to make the playoffs next year than the chances of them giving up an 11th overall pick is higher than their chances of making it in my opinion.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

OK is more than a maybe.

League leading goal scoring d-man and Rasmus (perennial 50+ point d-man) are nothing to sneeze at either.

I'd bank on there being a young d-man with upside coming back in these returns. You can't ship out that many D and replenish only from within. They'll bring somebody in.

I like Pachal and Gilbert to fill 5-6 roles. Need an acxeptable #4 option though.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I just don’t post

You're probably just kidding but I hope it's not the Seklund comment.

That's one moron, not the majority by a long shot.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Why are you so dead set on the Flames missing the playoffs?

Because they are closer to drafting 8th overall than they are making the playoffs and organization badly needs chances to draft prospects that are closer to blue chip than the prospects available in the middle of the draft. Once Tanev and Hanafin get moved, it's really hard to imagine the team having the uptick in play down the stretch required to make the playoffs.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I just don’t post

Thanks Hack for your Hack1 post that was the final straw for Sec. Dammit! This is why we can’t have nice things, couple posters who can’t stand the majority having fun and enjoying themselves. I’ll never understand the ‘wet blanket’ poster, I mean at the end of the day we are all (mostly) Flames fans and the info we were getting from posters plugged in to the Flames brass was beyond fun. Oh well.

[Enoch Root]

Mods: we are at 25,000 posts in this thread, with 10,000 in the last 3 weeks... is it time for a new thread? Because we are likely to get another 10,000 in the next 2 weeks.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

OK is more than a maybe.

League leading goal scoring d-man and Rasmus (perennial 50+ point d-man) are nothing to sneeze at either.

I'd bank on there being a young d-man with upside coming back in these returns. You can't ship out that many D and replenish only from within. They'll bring somebody in.

I like Pachal and Gilbert to fill 5-6 roles. Need an acxeptable #4 option though.

Yeah, but the Flames defence worked because they have four guys who are a #2 on a contender. Kylington is a maybe in what role he will fill, is he a 4/5 or a 2/3?
The Flames are barely in the hunt riding vezina level goaltending and are going to get worse.

[Naitix]

Ugh I just hope we trade Markstrom, we can not be mediocre next year, we need to be bottom 10 bad. Everyday it seems like less likely to be a trade deadline trade, and more of an off season move, but I don’t think markstorms value will be as high in the off season, too many goalies available during that time and everyone is healthy

[Bongsong]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I just don’t post

Please post

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by Bingo

You're probably just kidding but I hope it's not the Seklund comment.

That's one moron, not the majority by a long shot.

100%. For the dark minority that take their shots at Sec, one thing to keep in mind is that Sec nailed the trade winds around Markstrom. Trade didn't happen, but Sec was early in spotting that for us. Loved logging in and reading that stuff.

Can't expect much more than that kind of input here plus you get Gifs as a bonus!!

Also, it appears Hack showed himself out or put himself in a timeout which is healthy for everyone.

[Enoch Root]

It would be so much fun if the Flames managed to make the playoffs after selling Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm, Zadorov and Toffoli (and maybe Markstrom +), but the chances of it are just too remote. And it isn't like they currently hold a spot and would somehow just have to hang on - they are in 11th and would have to climb over 3 teams.

It'll be great to root for. But I don't think it would be smart for the team to do anything to try and accomplish it.

And even more pertinent - because of the 1st owing to MTL, they only have two choices for next year: either be a contending playoff team (top 10 in the league), or be bottom 10 (which is infinitely more realistic).

They won't say it publicly, but they have to know that next year is the one year where they shouldn't do anything with the purpose of being more competitive. Trading Markstrom is the perfect move to (silently) accomplish the one-year tank.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Thanks Hack for your Hack1 post that was the final straw for Sec. Dammit! This is why we can’t have nice things, couple posters who can’t stand the majority having fun and enjoying themselves. I’ll never understand the ‘wet blanket’ poster, I mean at the end of the day we are all (mostly) Flames fans and the info we were getting from posters plugged in to the Flames brass was beyond fun. Oh well.

The only reason I can think of as to why Hack would post that way is a "look at me! look at me!" syndrom

annoying and immature, especially after all the previous discussion about such posts.......
Dicklund if you ask me

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It would be so much fun if the Flames managed to make the playoffs after selling Hanifin, Tanev, Lindholm, Zadorov and Toffoli (and maybe Markstrom +), but the chances of it are just too remote. And it isn't like they currently hold a spot and would somehow just have to hang on - they are in 11th and would have to climb over 3 teams.

It'll be great to root for. But I don't think it would be smart for the team to do anything to try and accomplish it.

And even more pertinent - because of the 1st owing to MTL, they only have two choices for next year: either be a contending playoff team (top 10 in the league), or be bottom 10 (which is infinitely more realistic).

They won't say it publicly, but they have to know that next year is the one year where they shouldn't do anything with the purpose of being more competitive. Trading Markstrom is the perfect move to (silently) accomplish the one-year tank.

Doesn’t Montreal have the option to take this years pick if it’s 20-32?