01-19-2026, 01:10 AM
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#24721
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Originally Posted by Vinsta13
I know we are in a ‘rebuggle’ right now but wonder if we went back to Boston with Weegar instead of Andersson for the same offer and if Conroy would do it.
How would you all feel about:
To Boston:
Weegar
To Calgary
1st Round pick
Mason Lohrei
Matthew Poitras
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I don't see Boston going for that. Part of their interest in Andersson was because he's having a hot season this year, and they were hoping he would carry that over into the playoffs for them. Weegar needs to show he can still bring some consistency to his play before he's worth that amount.
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01-19-2026, 01:11 AM
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#24722
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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How many firsts can we accumulate?
I don't think Coleman commands that return. But Kadri and Weegar could each fetch a golden dart.
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01-19-2026, 01:13 AM
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#24723
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
I would trade Kadri this season now, and I would do it to make room.
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The trouble is that not too many teams who would want Kadri can fit in his cap hit this season. Future seasons are not a problem, but if you retain part of his salary for this year, you have to retain the same percentage for the entire contract. I don't think the Flames have an appetite to do that.
For this reason, as I've mentioned before, I think Kadri will be easier to trade during the off-season.
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01-19-2026, 01:14 AM
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#24724
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinsta13
I know we are in a ‘rebuggle’ right now but wonder if we went back to Boston with Weegar instead of Andersson for the same offer and if Conroy would do it.
How would you all feel about:
To Boston:
Weegar
To Calgary
1st Round pick
Mason Lohrei
Matthew Poitras
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seems unlikely Boston would do it
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01-19-2026, 01:14 AM
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#24725
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
How many firsts can we accumulate?
I don't think Coleman commands that return. But Kadri and Weegar could each fetch a golden dart.
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This has to be a troll post.
That or it’s bed time….
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01-19-2026, 01:16 AM
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#24726
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Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Trades are fun, I wouldn't hate having a couple more before the season is up.
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01-19-2026, 01:17 AM
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#24727
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Originally Posted by Sec214
This has to be a troll post.
That or it’s bed time….
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Any talk on Coleman yet? I assume you mean he’s getting a 1st easily
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01-19-2026, 01:25 AM
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#24728
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Tbull8
Any talk on Coleman yet? I assume you mean he’s getting a 1st easily
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Very easily.
He’s been called about about all year. He’s on probably every team’s whiteboard in the league as reported by MSM.
He’s the total package for the role he plays and he’s a 2x cup champ.
Contract isn’t #### and hasn’t aged out yet and no signs it will.
He’s the asset most likely to get you top prospects for the right team.
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01-19-2026, 01:27 AM
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#24729
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
The trouble is that not too many teams who would want Kadri can fit in his cap hit this season. Future seasons are not a problem, but if you retain part of his salary for this year, you have to retain the same percentage for the entire contract. I don't think the Flames have an appetite to do that.
For this reason, as I've mentioned before, I think Kadri will be easier to trade during the off-season.
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I think if it happens this season, it will happen closer to the deadline. A lot of contenders will have accrued enough room by then, and the Flames can always take salary back as well like they did with the Andersson trade.
I agree that it doesn't make sense to retain on Kadri - that's just too many years. 2 years I think would be about the max (like Markstrom), but 4? That's getting into the years where the Flames may actually really need that cap space, so unless some team is going to really overpay for that length of retention, it will be just be a contract coming back.
I am hoping for a deadline deal, but yes, you are right, may not happen until the off-season.
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01-19-2026, 01:33 AM
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#24730
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Very easily.
He’s been called about about all year. He’s on probably every team’s whiteboard in the league as reported by MSM.
He’s the total package for the role he plays and he’s a 2x cup champ.
Contract isn’t #### and hasn’t aged out yet and no signs it will.
He’s the asset most likely to get you top prospects for the right team.
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The huge downside is that you also need those types of solid veterans, who want to be on the team, to lead your young and rising stars into the NHL. You need the example to follow.
I think of E=NG, when they traded away Smyth in 2007. He was the last veteran to lead by example. And then they floundered for a decade,.or more, even with all those 1st overall picks.
I'm all for trading Kadri, but I feel like keeping Coleman and Weegar is needed to mold the new team. Of course, Kadri gets a return that is nothing close to Coleman's.
Last edited by Draug; 01-19-2026 at 01:35 AM.
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01-19-2026, 01:33 AM
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#24731
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
This has to be a troll post.
That or it’s bed time….
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I know he's a cherished role player here. But would you spend a 1st on Coleman if you were a contender?
He has 21 points in 44 games. He's piled up some nice, timely goals, but Backlund's been the more consistent producer of the two by far.
I think firsts would be reserved for younger guys with better stat lines.
a 2nd + B prospect I could maybe see happening for Blake.
Also lame response, maybe you're best sticking with GIFs?
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01-19-2026, 01:42 AM
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#24732
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
I know he's a cherished role player here. But would you spend a 1st on Coleman if you were a contender?
He has 21 points in 44 games. He's piled up some nice, timely goals, but Backlund's been the more consistent producer of the two by far.
I think firsts would be reserved for younger guys with better stat lines.
a 2nd + B prospect I could maybe see happening for Blake.
Also lame response, maybe you're best sticking with GIFs?
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You’re looking at a small percentage of available data and making the assumption points/GP = value.
I can give you 25+ other stat lines teams look at to determine value and another 10 to 15 of intangibles that hold zero data but every team looks for to determine value.
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01-19-2026, 01:47 AM
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#24733
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Very easily.
He’s been called about about all year. He’s on probably every team’s whiteboard in the league as reported by MSM.
He’s the total package for the role he plays and he’s a 2x cup champ.
Contract isn’t #### and hasn’t aged out yet and no signs it will.
He’s the asset most likely to get you top prospects for the right team.
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It seemed lots of people on here thought Rasmus would get a mid first, top prospect and more. But instead we got a late 1st and a depth vet. Somebody was even saying Boston was trading possibly both their 1sts.
And I don't know who was saying it becaue there are so many messages on here. But I think clearly the value people put on a message board does not always correlate with real life. Because obviously Conroy is going to take the best deal possible.
So maybe you are right but who knows.
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01-19-2026, 01:50 AM
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#24734
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I'll believe Coleman returns a 1st when I see it.
If that actually happens, I'll be happy to give credit for being incorrect.
But remaining skeptical of that in the meantime I think is perfectly fair and not "trolling". It's great that there is interest, but I think the Flames profiting off of a bidding war means you get a 3rd added to a 2nd, rather than teams moving up into 1st territory.
It doesn't mean a wide array of contending teams wouldn't like to add him. There's probably huge interest, but in line with the value of a good 3rd line winger.
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 01-19-2026 at 01:52 AM.
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01-19-2026, 01:52 AM
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#24735
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
It seemed lots of people on here thought Rasmus would get a mid first, top prospect and more. But instead we got a late 1st and a depth vet. Somebody was even saying Boston was trading possibly both their 1sts.
And I don't know who was saying it becaue there are so many messages on here. But I think clearly the value people put on a message board does not always correlate with real life. Because obviously Conroy is going to take the best deal possible.
So maybe you are right but who knows.
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For one you have no idea where the first is going to be...you keep saying late like Vegas goes to the finals every season. The "mid first" is one rumored pick that was only available with an extension that wasn't possible. Even then the Leafs are playing better, good chance that pick is in the 20s.
What team with a mid first is trading it for a rental lol
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01-19-2026, 01:55 AM
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#24736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
For one you have no idea where the first is going to be...you keep saying late like Vegas goes to the finals every season. The "mid first" is one rumored pick that was only available with an extension that wasn't possible. Even then the Leafs are playing better, good chance that pick is in the 20s.
What team with a mid first is trading it for a rental lol
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Friedman said that he was told the Leafs 2026 1st was never part of Boston's offer when he looked into it. And Boston's offer was only if Andersson was being extended.
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01-19-2026, 01:56 AM
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#24737
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhett44
It seemed lots of people on here thought Rasmus would get a mid first, top prospect and more. But instead we got a late 1st and a depth vet. Somebody was even saying Boston was trading possibly both their 1sts.
And I don't know who was saying it becaue there are so many messages on here. But I think clearly the value people put on a message board does not always correlate with real life. Because obviously Conroy is going to take the best deal possible.
So maybe you are right but who knows.
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You also totally excluded the conditional 2nd…
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01-19-2026, 02:18 AM
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#24738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
You also totally excluded the conditional 2nd…
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…which is a 2nd if the condition is NOT met, and can be upgraded to a 1st.
So at minimum, the Flames got a late 1st in '27, a late 2nd in '28, a roster player who led the Vegas D in even-strength ice time, and a long-shot college player.
The maximum is the 11th overall pick in '27 (since it's top-10 protected), a 1st in '28 (if the Knights win the Cup this year), plus the roster player and long-shot prospect.
I'm not counting on anything more than the minimum, but I think that's a lot for Vegas to give up for a guy who was probably just going to sign there in July anyway.
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01-19-2026, 02:24 AM
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#24739
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Cap is way different now and moving forward though
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$10.5 million cash is still $10.5 million cash.
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01-19-2026, 02:26 AM
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#24740
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Originally Posted by getbak
$10.5 million cash is still $10.5 million cash.
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A higher cap means retention is less valueble though
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