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View Poll Results: When will the ring road be completed?
1-3 years 8 3.85%
4-7 years 91 43.75%
7-10 years 65 31.25%
10-20 years 20 9.62%
Never 24 11.54%
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Old 08-27-2014, 12:39 AM   #2441
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That Sarcee/Glenmore/SWRR plate of spaghetti is awesome.
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Awesome to look at in an animation but seriously at this point... I feel like people know the road is getting built, but I'm not sure they're entirely aware of the carnage the province is about to lay on the west side of the city. The before and after of what they're doing to the Sarcee/Glenmore intersection is some combination of hilarious and horrifying.

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For context you're looking south down Sarcee with Glenmore going east to west from left to right. Sorta.
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Old 08-27-2014, 06:40 AM   #2443
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I like all the sudden dips, bumps and craters in our cheaply built and poorly thought out ring road.

what were they thinking when they were developing glenmmore east turning north on to Stoney......oh look a squirrel.
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Awesome to look at in an animation but seriously at this point... I feel like people know the road is getting built, but I'm not sure they're entirely aware of the carnage the province is about to lay on the west side of the city. The before and after of what they're doing to the Sarcee/Glenmore intersection is some combination of hilarious and horrifying.

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For context you're looking south down Sarcee with Glenmore going east to west from left to right. Sorta.
I like it. Comes with being a growing city.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:38 AM   #2445
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It's one of those things... it's a big pill to swallow but ultimately it just has to happen... and the sooner, the better. It only gets more expensive to build big projects.

Time to get over it and get to work on this thing. It will make the city SO much better connected on the west side.
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If it wasn't for the "Top-Down" leadership of the Great Allison Redford, this road would have never got built.

The City didn't get a hero it wanted......It got a hero it needed

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Old 08-27-2014, 08:56 AM   #2447
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If the modeling in this video is to scale can someone tell me why a highway or ring road would require approximately 100m of green median space?

When I looked at the video and did a rough calculation it appears as though there is 100m of median along the highway 8 section. That seems like overkill and a lot of wasted space.

I wonder how the folks along that western edge with their million+ homes feel about this infrastructure project. The Slopes in particular will become a lot less attractive. Their secluded, mountain and foothills view will certainly suck when an 8 lane highway is put in.

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Old 08-27-2014, 08:58 AM   #2448
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If the modeling in this video is to scale can someone tell me why a highway or ring road would require approximately 100m of green median space?

When I looked at the video and did a rough calculation it appears as though there is 100m of median along the highway 8 section. That seems like overkill and a lot of wasted space.
I think they leave those kinds of big spaces to accomodate future expansion without the need to tear a whole bunch of stuff down to do it.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:00 AM   #2449
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It may not be 100 metres, but they are leaving room to expand. By having huge medians the cost isn't that much more. However if the demand warrants they could go from 3 lanes each way to 5 or even 6 lanes without having to build new bridges, overpasses and underpasses.

Imaging if Deerfoot had been built with that in mind.
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It may not be 100 metres, but they are leaving room to expand. By having huge medians the cost isn't that much more. However if the demand warrants they could go from 3 lanes each way to 5 or even 6 lanes without having to build new bridges, overpasses and underpasses.

Imaging if Deerfoot had been built with that in mind.
When I look at modeling the various bridges and elevated sections do not appear to be designed for additional future lanes. If additional widening was necessary the elevated sections would require additional widening.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:29 AM   #2451
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Two additional carriageways will be built in the median, with the existing road become a collector/distributor system like the 401 in Toronto or the Dan Ryan in Chicago. As far as Deerfoot being like that... I dunno. Freeways like that tend to ruin cities.
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Old 08-27-2014, 09:36 AM   #2452
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Another thing that strikes me as being odd or poorly planned is why they would decide to only have two lanes moving traffic between the southern part of Sarcee and the western part of highway 8. I would think designing it with three lanes would be better especially considering the main purpose of the road and that most of the traffic will be flowing along those two lane sections. I'm expecting that to be a bottleneck area.
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Two additional carriageways will be built in the median, with the existing road become a collector/distributor system like the 401 in Toronto or the Dan Ryan in Chicago. As far as Deerfoot being like that... I dunno. Freeways like that tend to ruin cities.
The very first thing I thought of while watching that video. I know they're looking down the line for when that may become necessary but wow when you consider the traffic the 401 sees in a day vs. the traffic this highway would see I just think that must be quite a far way off. Unless the city of course has a continuing development boom and pushes the suburbs of the city to cochrane and beyond.

I drove the stoney all the way from the airport to okotoks the other day and I must say that is some smooth sailing on that highway. I can't believe though that it's only 100. With the design of it you'd swear it was built for driving 140.
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Wow, that's quite the monstrosity. Major damage to the Weaselhead.

I live in this area. Is there even a need for this road? I'm perfectly fine taking 14th to Glenmore to get west of the city. Granted, I don't work out that way, so I'm never taking those roads during rush hour, but this all seems planned to take care of demand that may or may not exist in the future.

The guys over at SSP don't care for it either by the way - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...59#post6706359
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:21 AM   #2455
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I hope they put up wildlife exclusion fencing so that road doesn't become a killing field. They should have done that for the sections of the SE ring road near fish creek.
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I'm perfectly fine taking 14th to Glenmore to get west of the city. Granted, I don't work out that way, so I'm never taking those roads during rush hour
You should really try that route at 5:00 on a Friday. Especially if there's been an accident anywhere along that route.
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I hope they put up wildlife exclusion fencing so that road doesn't become a killing field. They should have done that for the sections of the SE ring road near fish creek.
Wha? The SE portion of Stoney is nowhere near Fish Creek.

Edit: Ah. The Bow River at 22x. Nevermind.
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Old 08-27-2014, 11:31 AM   #2458
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Strathcona Street and bridge over Sarcee Trail appear to be a road and bridge to no where.
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Wow, that's quite the monstrosity. Major damage to the Weaselhead.

I live in this area. Is there even a need for this road? I'm perfectly fine taking 14th to Glenmore to get west of the city. Granted, I don't work out that way, so I'm never taking those roads during rush hour, but this all seems planned to take care of demand that may or may not exist in the future.

The guys over at SSP don't care for it either by the way - http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...59#post6706359
There is huge demand right now for it. It will also keep many trucks off of Glenmore Trail.
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You should really try that route at 5:00 on a Friday. Especially if there's been an accident anywhere along that route.
That's fair. Something certainly needs to be done. But is a potential 16 lane freeway the answer?
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