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Old 06-13-2024, 11:43 AM   #2441
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Old 06-13-2024, 11:45 AM   #2442
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You spelled Forsling wrong.
If you look at GA for dmen at ES during regular season. Min 800 mins played Ekblad was on for least number of goals, 20 goals. Forsling was on for 37 but played 600 more minutes. All other dmen mixed in with them at the top are not matching up against the elite stars every night and are not helping on the offensive end either.

Barkov actually plays significantly more minutes away from these 2 then he does with them in the regular season and it's close to 50/50 in the playoffs. The Barkov line is also tough to score on. Florida is just an elite defensive team, and the goalie rarely hurts then either.

At the end of the day, I would give more credit to Ekblad and Forsling for shutting down the likes of Kucherov, Panarin, Pasta and so far, McDavid and Drasaitl than Barkov.
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Old 06-13-2024, 11:50 AM   #2443
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
10% or so
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Old 06-13-2024, 11:51 AM   #2446
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
I think I saw this on the TNT broadcast..

Apparently the stat is like 3-37 for teams that lose the first two.

And I believe Boston was the last team to come back and win after being down two in the finals.
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
From 0-3 has only happened once in the finals, in 1942

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This game is crucial for the Oilers; history is not in their favor if they drop a third straight game. In Stanley Cup Final history, a team down 2-0 has won that series 9.3% of the time (five times in 54 instances). The most recent team to do so was the Boston Bruins in 2011 who won 4-3 over the Vancouver Canucks.

But move that to a 3-0 deficit and things are even more daunting. Only four teams have ever come back from that deficit in NHL playoff history (roughly 2%) and only one team did that in the Stanley Cup Final: the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs.
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I think I saw this on the TNT broadcast..

Apparently the stat is like 3-37 for teams that lose the first two.

And I believe Boston was the last team to come back and win after being down two in the finals.
Weirdest 7 game series ever. Vancouvers 3 wins were all close (1 goal gams including an OT win). Boston's 4 wins were routs. 3,4,4 and 7 goal margins.
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
Teams up 2-0 in the Finals have won 91% of the series.

Only 3 teams have won a Finals after dropping the first 2 on the road. We all know the last time that happened.
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Old 06-13-2024, 12:04 PM   #2450
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Apparently he is taking a penalty every play if you believe David Staples.
I've listened to his podcast a few times and he doesn't sound too bright, like a kid who never grew up. And his koala buddy who's reading out the stats can barely breathe. The whole show is pretty hilarious.
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Old 06-13-2024, 12:12 PM   #2451
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The NHL set out all the stats the other day






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Lead 3-2 is a bit of a sad stat
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Wish it was just a math equation. I fully am prepping myself for the Oilers to climb back into this and win so I can just be really happy with anything else

they're like the bad guy in an 80s movie, they need to die like 3x before its actually over where the last one involves a stake through the heart followed by a piano being dropped on them.
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Old 06-13-2024, 12:26 PM   #2454
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Wish it was just a math equation. I fully am prepping myself for the Oilers to climb back into this and win so I can just be really happy with anything else

they're like the bad guy in an 80s movie, they need to die like 3x before its actually over where the last one involves a stake through the heart followed by a piano being dropped on them.
I am pretty apprehensive about getting too ahead as well. If being a Flames fan over the past couple of seasons taught me anything, it's that the hockey gods hate us.
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Also important to note that the team that goes up 4-0 goes on to win 100% of the time. (27-0)


Seriously, I am actually surprised that so many Stanley Cup Finals have been sweeps. That's around 25%.
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Lead 3-2 is a bit of a sad stat
I think teams are spent once they're in the finals so comebacks at the tail end of the series would be much harder. And of course the teams on the verge of winning will dig deeper to get the job done.

Unless you're indirectly referring to 2004
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Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
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Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
It's probably just the relatively small sample sizes. If you had sample of say 1,000, I would bet that 3-0 would pass 3-1.
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Old 06-13-2024, 12:54 PM   #2459
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Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
I find it stranger that teams up 1 to 0 and 2 to 1 have such a high win percent. Pressure of the finals must get to teams when trailing combined with the teams that dominate in the finals.

Lots of year where 1 conference is just much better than the other too.
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Panthers score first and watch Oilers crumble.
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