06-13-2024, 11:43 AM
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#2441
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Just win, dont let them get their hopes up
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06-13-2024, 11:45 AM
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#2442
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
You spelled Forsling wrong.
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If you look at GA for dmen at ES during regular season. Min 800 mins played Ekblad was on for least number of goals, 20 goals. Forsling was on for 37 but played 600 more minutes. All other dmen mixed in with them at the top are not matching up against the elite stars every night and are not helping on the offensive end either.
Barkov actually plays significantly more minutes away from these 2 then he does with them in the regular season and it's close to 50/50 in the playoffs. The Barkov line is also tough to score on. Florida is just an elite defensive team, and the goalie rarely hurts then either.
At the end of the day, I would give more credit to Ekblad and Forsling for shutting down the likes of Kucherov, Panarin, Pasta and so far, McDavid and Drasaitl than Barkov.
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06-13-2024, 11:50 AM
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#2443
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What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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06-13-2024, 11:50 AM
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#2444
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2007
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today is Chucky's day. he will score 2 goals
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06-13-2024, 11:50 AM
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#2445
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne
What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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10% or so
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06-13-2024, 11:51 AM
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#2446
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Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne
What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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I think I saw this on the TNT broadcast..
Apparently the stat is like 3-37 for teams that lose the first two.
And I believe Boston was the last team to come back and win after being down two in the finals.
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06-13-2024, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne
What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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From 0-3 has only happened once in the finals, in 1942
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport.../74003996007/#
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This game is crucial for the Oilers; history is not in their favor if they drop a third straight game. In Stanley Cup Final history, a team down 2-0 has won that series 9.3% of the time (five times in 54 instances). The most recent team to do so was the Boston Bruins in 2011 who won 4-3 over the Vancouver Canucks.
But move that to a 3-0 deficit and things are even more daunting. Only four teams have ever come back from that deficit in NHL playoff history (roughly 2%) and only one team did that in the Stanley Cup Final: the 1942 Toronto Maple Leafs.
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06-13-2024, 11:58 AM
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#2448
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sss1
I think I saw this on the TNT broadcast..
Apparently the stat is like 3-37 for teams that lose the first two.
And I believe Boston was the last team to come back and win after being down two in the finals.
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Weirdest 7 game series ever. Vancouvers 3 wins were all close (1 goal gams including an OT win). Boston's 4 wins were routs. 3,4,4 and 7 goal margins.
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06-13-2024, 11:59 AM
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#2449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAreOne
What are the stats of teams down 0-2 in the cup coming back to win? What about 0-3?
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Teams up 2-0 in the Finals have won 91% of the series.
Only 3 teams have won a Finals after dropping the first 2 on the road. We all know the last time that happened.
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06-13-2024, 12:04 PM
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#2450
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Apparently he is taking a penalty every play if you believe David Staples.
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I've listened to his podcast a few times and he doesn't sound too bright, like a kid who never grew up. And his koala buddy who's reading out the stats can barely breathe. The whole show is pretty hilarious.
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06-13-2024, 12:12 PM
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#2451
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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The NHL set out all the stats the other day
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06-13-2024, 12:16 PM
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#2452
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Lead 3-2 is a bit of a sad stat
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06-13-2024, 12:19 PM
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#2453
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Wish it was just a math equation. I fully am prepping myself for the Oilers to climb back into this and win so I can just be really happy with anything else
they're like the bad guy in an 80s movie, they need to die like 3x before its actually over where the last one involves a stake through the heart followed by a piano being dropped on them.
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06-13-2024, 12:26 PM
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#2454
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty81
Wish it was just a math equation. I fully am prepping myself for the Oilers to climb back into this and win so I can just be really happy with anything else
they're like the bad guy in an 80s movie, they need to die like 3x before its actually over where the last one involves a stake through the heart followed by a piano being dropped on them.
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I am pretty apprehensive about getting too ahead as well. If being a Flames fan over the past couple of seasons taught me anything, it's that the hockey gods hate us.
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06-13-2024, 12:26 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Also important to note that the team that goes up 4-0 goes on to win 100% of the time. (27-0)
Seriously, I am actually surprised that so many Stanley Cup Finals have been sweeps. That's around 25%.
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06-13-2024, 12:37 PM
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#2456
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Lead 3-2 is a bit of a sad stat
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I think teams are spent once they're in the finals so comebacks at the tail end of the series would be much harder. And of course the teams on the verge of winning will dig deeper to get the job done.
Unless you're indirectly referring to 2004
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06-13-2024, 12:43 PM
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#2457
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
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06-13-2024, 12:50 PM
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#2458
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
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It's probably just the relatively small sample sizes. If you had sample of say 1,000, I would bet that 3-0 would pass 3-1.
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06-13-2024, 12:54 PM
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#2459
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Why does a 3-0 series lead have a lower win rate than a 3-1 series lead? All they did was lose, yet their chances increase?
Or something about taking the longer path to a 3-1 series lead makes it even more advantageous than simply winning the first 3 games.
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I find it stranger that teams up 1 to 0 and 2 to 1 have such a high win percent. Pressure of the finals must get to teams when trailing combined with the teams that dominate in the finals.
Lots of year where 1 conference is just much better than the other too.
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06-13-2024, 12:55 PM
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#2460
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Panthers score first and watch Oilers crumble.
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