Arena negotiation discussion. UPD: Flames release their proposal

[sureLoss]

Today is the Ken King luncheon at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. Topic: Future of the Calgary Flames.

Sure to be some good quotes coming out in about an hour.

[Ashasx]

I hope he just doesn't make a complete ass of himself

[Robbob]

Don't we have someone from CP embedded at the event.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I hope he just doesn't make a complete ass of himself

Too late. That ship has sailed. Flames need a new spokesman.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Today is the Ken King luncheon at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. Topic: Future of the Calgary Flames.

Sure to be some good quotes coming out in about an hour.

Really? Thats the topic? Being brought before the Chamber of Commerce?

[etdpratt]

Originally Posted by Robbob

Don't we have someone from CP embedded at the event.

Is there not a way to listen in online?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Locke

Really? Thats the topic? Being brought before the Chamber of Commerce?

Sure, why not? I'm sure there are plenty of business people interested in the future of the hockey team, or any other business who bring in over a $100M in spinoff business for that matter. Why wouldn't the CoC be interested?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by New Era

Sure, why not? I'm sure there are plenty of business people interested in the future of the hockey team, or any other business who bring in over a $100M in spinoff business for that matter. Why wouldn't the CoC be interested?

Its a little.....well its not exactly subtle is it.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Today is the Ken King luncheon at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. Topic: Future of the Calgary Flames.

As he made clear last week, there is no future. Cancel the lunch.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Locke

Its a little.....well its not exactly subtle is it.

Unfortunately, the time for subtle appears to be long gone. This has turned into a full blown political showdown, and the Flames are rallying the one group they have in their corner. If anyone can pressure Nenshi to change his tune it's the business community as a whole. I suspect there will be some first class scaremongering in this session. "If it can happen to us, it can happen to you!" Likely followed with a call to circle the wagons. Yes, it's dumb, but completely predictable given the animosity between the two sides at the moment.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Today is the Ken King luncheon at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. Topic: Future of the Calgary Flames.

Sure to be some good quotes coming out in about an hour.

It's a good thing Ken King said he's not going to talk about the arena anymore.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Torture

It's a good thing Ken King said he's not going to talk about the arena anymore.

They're going to have to eat fast because this is going to be a short lunch.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Today is the Ken King luncheon at the Calgary Chamber of Commerce. Topic: Future of the Calgary Flames.

Sure to be some good quotes coming out in about an hour.

Does anyone know when this was scheduled? Normally the CoC schedules the bigger events fairly far out, and this one is considered substantial based on the room. Also some pretty big sponsors. Doesn't seem like a spur of the moment booking.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by New Era

Does anyone know when this was scheduled? Normally the CoC schedules the bigger events fairly far out, and this one is considered substantial based on the room. Also some pretty big sponsors. Doesn't seem like a spur of the moment booking.

Which would make it even funnier.

"Greeting everyone....um, yeah, so.....yeah. Lunch adjourned!"

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Locke

Which would make it even funnier.

"Greeting everyone....um, yeah, so.....yeah. Lunch adjourned!"

Or could tell you this was either a regular thing the CoC does, or the Flames saw this as a requirement long before the breakdown in negotiations. Either way, it should be an informative session.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by New Era

Or could tell you this was either a regular thing the CoC does, or the Flames saw this as a requirement long before the breakdown in negotiations. Either way, it should be an informative session.

Oh it'll be informative! Have you seen King's Pressers lately? They're very informative.

Its just the nature of that information that fluctuates.

[sureLoss]

Link to stream:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...eech-1.4305911

[topfiverecords]

I'd be fine with City fronts 50% cash + land + Saddledome demolition but must get a minimum 35% returned through property tax (3M/year x 35). That leaves about a 90M investment to the "public benefit".

But I have some "public benefit" demands:

1. CSEC must include a "Rockefeller" style outdoor skating rink along side the arena for public use.

2. One side of the arena's concourse adjacent to the outdoor rink is accessible to the public outside of event times.

3. Public would have access to this concourse section's washrooms and a couple of concessions would operate outside of event hours.

4. Majority of Flames memorabilia would be on this concourse to be visible to the public.

5. On this concourse there would be a glass wall open to the rest of the arena, so the public could see what the inside of the arena is like, view retired player and championship banners, etc.

[Barnes]

Well I guess we can close this thread.

- The new arena file is closed. They are no longer perusing an new arena with the City of Calgary. Anyone who suggests that this part of the negotiation or posturing is wrong and that is aggravating.

[MacDaddy77]

^ Those are all really good ideas