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Old 12-14-2011, 04:55 PM   #2441
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Call me an elitist, but I don't see having 15 homeless people staying in my house as an easy way to make $4500.
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It is if you can get them to do your day to day chores.
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:07 AM   #2444
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It is if you can get them to do your day to day chores.
I don't know. They don't seem like the type of people who would buy into the whole "chore" thing.
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I don't know. They don't seem like the type of people who would buy into the whole "chore" thing.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:48 AM   #2446
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The guy who made the scupture spent three years on it and wants it left outdoors so it can rust away.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/enterta...409/story.html

I really have to give the guy credit, as the sculpture captured the Occupy movement perfectly: Starts off with support and appreciation, turns ugly, becomes a blight on the landscape and finally disappears.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:33 AM   #2447
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I actually think that the piece of art itself is pretty cool. I don't agree with how it was planted there to try to martyr themselves/the movement, but otherwise its a nice piece of art that wouldn't otherwise come cheap.
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So I'm confused, the first time they talked about it wasn't it about being a salute to protestors that had been sileneced through the ages, and the human struggle for something or another. And now its a reminder of our decaying society?

What makes it a good idea to put a statue somewhere thats going to rust out, fall apart and look like crap.

I get art, believe me I get art . . . except for the guy who put the crucifix in a pint of piss and called it art.

there are better pieces of art that could "occupy" that space that they want. And if the city asks the artist or undertakes spray coating it to protect it and extend its life, then what's the point.

I wish they would just be honest and come out and say that this statue is a middle finger to all the people who turned on us, and though we ultimately achieved nothing and lost, we want a permanent or semi permanent reminder there to slap you in the face whenever you walk by.

Put it in the warehouse, by the time the city gets it on the agenda in the late spring again, it will be so much dust on the floor, and that my friends is a symbol.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:12 AM   #2449
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I actually think that the piece of art itself is pretty cool. I don't agree with how it was planted there to try to martyr themselves/the movement, but otherwise its a nice piece of art that wouldn't otherwise come cheap.
I liked the visual of it as well. Nice piece of work.

However, with the political message attached to it, the work gradually morphed into an upraised middle finger everytime I stared at it.

It had to go and really can't be plopped down anywhere on public property given its symbolism.

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Old 12-15-2011, 10:38 AM   #2450
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Since we now know the owner of the piece, I'm wondering if he will be covering the towing?

I believe the going rate from Olympic Plaza to impound is $201.39

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Old 12-15-2011, 10:48 AM   #2451
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I have my doubts, I figure that the city will try to bury that thing in the warehouse and forget about it.

Personally I think an awesome idea would be to put a time lapse camera on it, and introduce it to the elements so that it falls apart in 55 days.

Like the Occupy Calgary movement.

then we can rename the photo collection "The heart of fail"

We could see the photo's to some art gallery for $201.39.
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I don't know. They don't seem like the type of people who would buy into the whole "chore" thing.
They don't seem like the type to buy into the whole "paying" thing either
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:40 PM   #2454
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They don't seem like the type to buy into the whole "paying" thing either
Don't worry im sure they are good for it just give them a couple more days and they will hit him back with payment in full
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I'm sure it's all claimed income as well.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:26 PM   #2456
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Even though I don't agree entirely with the occupiers' motives or method, I hope that the City does find a safe place for this statue to be displayed and rot away as the artist intended. It really is a stunning piece and is significant in its association with a protest that at a minimum succeeded in getting people talking about an issue that concerns many people.

Recycling it or storing it in some warehouse because of its political message would be a shame and not reflective of our pluralistic liberal democracy.
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Even though I don't agree entirely with the occupiers' motives or method, I hope that the City does find a safe place for this statue to be displayed and rot away as the artist intended. It really is a stunning piece and is significant in its association with a protest that at a minimum succeeded in getting people talking about an issue that concerns many people.

Recycling it or storing it in some warehouse because of its political message would be a shame and not reflective of our pluralistic liberal democracy.
The city should raffle it and use the proceeds to pay for all of or a portion of the clean up bill for the Occupy campground.

Seriously.

And wherever it ended up from there, it would be on private and not public property.

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I can't agree with you, Cowperson.

The City eats all kinds of costs for public displays, protests and celebrations and to me, this is like any other, whether I agree with it or not. This protest ran its course, there will be some fines paid but the costs will far exceed what the City gets back.

That's part of what we collectively pay for having a free society. I totally disagree with what they were trying to achieve but it is their right to try it however they choose. Nobody was hurt in any meaningful sense and there will be some new sod there in the spring. I'd much rather that than having some government committee deciding which protests are allowed and which are not, or even worse, deciding that all protest is disallowed.
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Old 12-15-2011, 03:49 PM   #2459
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The act of protesting was never disallowed, nor were the occupyer's silenced.

They were free to congregate in the park, or march in front of city hall, or whatever, the city didn't ever take away those rights.

The Occupyer's can cry and complain all they want, but they're being dishonest about their rights being taken away.

they never had the right to camp in the park.
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As much as they complained about their freedom of speech and right for assembly. The city had no problem with them going down to OP every day to protest. What they didn't want is peopel camping. IMO spending the night or sleeping doesn't really go towards your freedom of speech as 1) you aren't saying anything 2) there isn't anyone around.
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