[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Lanny_McDonald]

Treliving made yet another mistake in not moving Bennett in the off season. He should have used that abbreviated performance bump to pump his tires and dump him when he had the chance. It wasn't like this performance wasn't predictable and the most likely outcome. Now it's a matter of trying to get anything you can for him. You kind of hope you could get a 3rd for a player with that draft pedigree, but his performance coupled with his contract makes a 4th or a 5th more likely, and that continues to decline a bit each game. Treliving really has made the team worse by inactivity. Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don't make. Sometimes the best trades are the ones where you ship someone out for any tangible return, just to shake the team up. I think we're at the latter.

[Mathgod]

I think this question has been definitively answered... https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=166958

[DeluxeMoustache]

Why did you bump this exhausting thread just to point to another exhausting thread?

Bennett is way the #### down the list of problems right now

But his threads are like the god damn herpes of CP.

Unwanted bumps

[powderjunkie]

quoted from another thread

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Sam Bennett has had plenty of time to figure it out. He’s a very confusing player because you see what he can do in the playoffs against NHLers and you think he’s going to be an impact player. But in the mundane regular season, you can’t play balls to the wall, hit everything that moves hockey for 82 games, so Bennett’s impact fades. He still tries hard like a dog on a bone, but the game is called differently so he ends up taking a pile of bad offensive zone penalties which probably doesn’t help his confidence. So ok, he can’t be playoff Sam Bennett in the regular season.

But can he still carve out a solid career from his regular season performances? aaaand therein lies the problem. The answer is a resounding no. His raw tools are good, but nothing spectacular. The toolbox though, the hockey IQ is what flunks Sam Bennett’s game. He works hard, but doesn’t work smart. He can be strong along the boards, can cycle well and can make hard cuts because of his good edgework, but he’d rather try to deke one on one and lose the puck. He takes an incredibly long time to make decisions with the puck too, so the play passes by him and he doesn’t end up using his teammates often enough. On the defensive side, he puck watches a lot, loses his man a lot, spends a lot of time in the box, a career -70. That’s not very helpful to his team’s wins/losses department.

That’s the enigma of Sam Bennett and it has bewildered 5 different coaches so far in his career. Nobody knows what to do with him in the regular season. No linemates seem to stick so he ends up playing lower in the depth chart. Leon Draisaitl on the other hand has always had the hockey IQ and the raw skills to be a premier talent in this league. The only thing that prevented him from reaching his potential was his skating ability and to his credit, he turned that particular weakness into a strength. Now he’s actually one of the few players on his team that can not only keep up with the blazing fast Connor McDavid, but he can think the game at his level too. He can also carry his own line now which have made the Oilers a major threat in our division.

What do Leon, Ryan Strome, B Schenn, Jason Spezza, Ryan Johansen, RNH have in common (aside from being top 5 picks)?

Also Mikko Koivu, Kadri, Brassard, Couturier, and Zibanejad (aside from being 6/7/8OAs)?


All had stints back in jr. or AHL. Sometimes multiple, sometimes just 20 games and they never looked back. Most of them had shown similar/better than Bennett in their early NHL days.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I'm also sure that a lot of these guys were on competitive/contending teams where they probably would have helped their bottom 6.


Bennett's had plenty of time, yes. But a dogfight probably isn't the best place to learn to fly a fighter-jet, even if that's the ultimate goal.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

quoted from another thread



What do Leon, Ryan Strome, B Schenn, Jason Spezza, Ryan Johansen, RNH have in common (aside from being top 5 picks)?

Also Mikko Koivu, Kadri, Brassard, Couturier, and Zibanejad (aside from being 6/7/8OAs)?


All had stints back in jr. or AHL. Sometimes multiple, sometimes just 20 games and they never looked back. Most of them had shown similar/better than Bennett in their early NHL days.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I'm also sure that a lot of these guys were on competitive/contending teams where they probably would have helped their bottom 6.


Bennett's had plenty of time, yes. But a dogfight probably isn't the best place to learn to fly a fighter-jet, even if that's the ultimate goal.

I don’t think Leon Draisaitl’s career path is all that much different than Sam Bennett. Draisaitl made the NHL right after his draft year (14-15) and then was sent back to juniors half way into the season because he was struggling mightily and then played like 6 AHL games the next season before becoming a full time NHLer. Sam Bennett was injured in 14-15 and then finished out his junior career and then went to the NHL and never looked back.

Is 6 AHL games where he struggled mightily really the difference anyway? It’s nothing in the grand scheme of things. Leon Draisaitl turned his career around as an NHLer and in the last few seasons has hit an even higher level than I think most people anticipated. Sam Bennett on the other-hand has sort went the opposite way where in the last couple seasons he’s hit rock bottom in his NHL career. This season has been an absolute disaster for him on both sides of the ice. I still think the key was Draisaitl fixing his skating. It elevated every other strength in his game whereas with Bennnett, how does one fix hockey IQ?

For the record, I still think Sam Bennett can carve out a long NHL career. I think every team will want to trade for him at the NHL trade deadline because the way the game is called changes and his effort level ratchets up and he can become a difference maker. That’s where I could see Sam Bennett’s career path going. But until he quits the junior hockey stuff and realizes what type of he needs to become on a permanent basis, I’m not sure he ever figures it out in the regular season with any team.


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[genetic_phreek]

Curtis Lazar on the worse team in the league has more points than Bennett. Embarrassing.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

quoted from another thread



What do Leon, Ryan Strome, B Schenn, Jason Spezza, Ryan Johansen, RNH have in common (aside from being top 5 picks)?

Also Mikko Koivu, Kadri, Brassard, Couturier, and Zibanejad (aside from being 6/7/8OAs)?


All had stints back in jr. or AHL. Sometimes multiple, sometimes just 20 games and they never looked back. Most of them had shown similar/better than Bennett in their early NHL days.

I'm sure there are lots of other examples. I'm also sure that a lot of these guys were on competitive/contending teams where they probably would have helped their bottom 6.


Bennett's had plenty of time, yes. But a dogfight probably isn't the best place to learn to fly a fighter-jet, even if that's the ultimate goal.

Bennett may have benefited from AHL time. But boy were there posters here who were made that it was even discussed.

[CSharp]

Looks like Sutter made Bennett the captain of the Flames! Geo got his C taken away. Somethings coming down! BoA coming up!

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Looks like Sutter made Bennett the captain of the Flames! Geo got his C taken away. Somethings coming down! BoA coming up!

Happy April 1st to you too.

[ComixZone]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1378912275965296641

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1378912275965296641

Minnesota and other teams (including maybe St. Louis) have interest in Bennett?
That's good to hear I guess. They have 2.531 mill in cap space and Bennett's cap hit is 2.550. Close enough.

[Sandman]

Minny has some nice prospects-LW Adam Beckman, LW Matthew Boldy, C Marat Khusnutdinov, and especially D Calen Addison. Probably won't get any of them for Bennett though, unless a fleecing takes place.

St.Louis has the aforementioned Klim Kostin, who they would probably part with; they won't trade Robert Thomas. We wouldn't be able to get Jake Neighbors, but perhaps they would part with D Leo Loof? He's only 18, but he's got size and snarl, skating, and some offensive skill....

[Monahammer]

Big if imo, but if anyone is willing to give us anything of value for Bennett at this point, take it and run.
I would suspect the most anyone else is offering are other struggling players who are not expansion exempt and who have QOs to high to justify. Does anyone still believe Bennett has real upside potential?

[transplant99]

Not sure i have ever seen a player in the offensive zone with the puck on HIS stick...take a tripping penalty as it appeared to have happened to Sam last night.

[VilleN]

I think we could get a late 1st round pick for Bennett from a contending team. his playoff resume would be enticing for a team going all in for the cup.

[alan21]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Not sure i have ever seen a player in the offensive zone with the puck on HIS stick...take a tripping penalty as it appeared to have happened to Sam last night.

Don't forget the faceplant into the end boards and then a shocked look that he was getting a penalty sprinkle in a pinch of complaining to the ref and you have a recipe that tastes like this entire season.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I think we could get a late 1st round pick for Bennett from a contending team. his playoff resume would be enticing for a team going all in for the cup.

In listening to the media talk about what the Leafs are looking for, I think Sam Bennett could fit perfectly.

Especially when you look into their past playoff performances and what was lacking.

I'd be pretty happy for Benny to go to Toronto. Close to family, and he gets a big stage to put it all out there.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Good old Eric Furlatt was one of the refs last night

He has long loved the Flames

[MikeMc]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I think we could get a late 1st round pick for Bennett from a contending team. his playoff resume would be enticing for a team going all in for the cup.

I'd be shocked if we got anything resembling a 1st or 2nd round draft pick for 4 goal, minus 16, 4th liner Sam Bennett.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by VilleN

I think we could get a late 1st round pick for Bennett from a contending team. his playoff resume would be enticing for a team going all in for the cup.

That's the funniest thing I've red on the internet in months. Target a 3rd and be happy with a 4th. Just get something for a player that is worthless to this team.