Flames to announce plans to announce arena plans in the... future...

[Bezer]

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

This makes a bit of sense to me because McMahon is ancient and the Stamps need a new Stadium, but they built new buildings right across the McMahon parking lot near the practice field which means to me they have plans to stay around there. I am wondering could they make one massive complex or two interconnected complexes? I think that would be pretty cool.

Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

^^^^^

Not a fan of the none down town location at all. Prefer this local to Firestone park option (likely though just personal preference on that) but don't think its a good idea to take it out of the core. Much better experience having a night out going to the game when it's close to the night life, would not like this location.

[4oh3]

Originally Posted by Bezer

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

This makes a bit of sense to me because McMahon is ancient and the Stamps need a new Stadium, but they built new buildings right across the McMahon parking lot near the practice field which means to me they have plans to stay around there. I am wondering could they make one massive complex or two interconnected complexes? I think that would be pretty cool.

Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

What does he do at the dome?

[Julio]

The city would have to along with any north of McMahon location, as they have that land as part of the Foothills Athletic Park
And they have really big plans for that entire area over the next couple decades, including a huge indoor field house.http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Recreatio...etic-Park.aspx

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Bezer

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

This makes a bit of sense to me because McMahon is ancient and the Stamps need a new Stadium, but they built new buildings right across the McMahon parking lot near the practice field which means to me they have plans to stay around there. I am wondering could they make one massive complex or two interconnected complexes? I think that would be pretty cool.

Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

Hahaha, nope.

[underGRADFlame]

Originally Posted by Bezer

[B]Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

[_Q_]

I have no doubt we're going to get an incredible facility, at the very least, much nicer than Edmonton's, because by the time ours gets built, theirs will be at the end of its life cycle.

[getbak]

King has repeatedly said that it will be downtown and will not have any kind of "western" theme, so I'd take any rumours of a McMahon location and/or cowboy hat shape with a massive grain of salt.

[T-Rex]

Originally Posted by Bezer

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

Didn't someone on here post a picture of this as a joke a few pages back?

[442scotty]

A cowboy hat... God help us

[T-Rex]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

I'm sure this picture has been shown on this site but this is the first time I've seen it.

I don't even know what to think about this thing.

The thread gets real interesting after this.

[bob-loblaw]

I can't see it leaving the Stampede grounds. The Stampede's retail plans have fizzled, but the only way they'd have a chance making any more 'north' development happen is by keeping the Flames and adding the Stamps. There's a ton of empty land there already and people will be creeping in from the east village but they can't lose what they have already.

I heard on 770 about six months ago that the Stampede Board and the Flames have already agreed to build on the site of the Big Four since it was pretty trashed by the flood. Plus there's already two train stations right next to it.

This is only my two cents, but they'd have to present it as a big picture win-win-win-win for the city, U of C, Stampede and Flames. If you build on the south end of the grounds you could possibly build an arena, stadium, and retro-fit the grandstand all in one massive complex. The only way I could see any public money thrown into the project is if the Stampede has it's fingers in it so all levels of government can pretend to hold their noses and pump the funds in for 'culture'.

The city has plans already for the west village and the existing stadium area and I can't see them wanting to throw it all away. The U of C can sell off the stadium lands for redevelopment so the city gets the higher density growth they want.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Bezer

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

This makes a bit of sense to me because McMahon is ancient and the Stamps need a new Stadium, but they built new buildings right across the McMahon parking lot near the practice field which means to me they have plans to stay around there. I am wondering could they make one massive complex or two interconnected complexes? I think that would be pretty cool.

Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

When did the Saddledome open up an Orange Julius?

[4oh3]

I actually think that cowboy hat arena is awesome. I just think the city needs to get passed the western stuff. It's good to celebrate the history of Calgary but I think building should be modern and fresh.

[Yeah_Baby]

If the Flames build a Cowboy hat arena I may have to start cheering for the team that play in Roger's 'Golf Club Shaped' Place. At least a Golf Club has more to do with Oilers in this decade than a cowboy hat has to do with Calgary 50 weeks out of the year.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Julio

The city would have to along with any north of McMahon location, as they have that land as part of the Foothills Athletic Park
And they have really big plans for that entire area over the next couple decades, including a huge indoor field house.http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/Recreatio...etic-Park.aspx

We did hear a rumour earlier that the project would include a field house...

[TheDebaser]

I think I found the architect in charge of that arena:

[#-3]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

I can't see it leaving the Stampede grounds. The Stampede's retail plans have fizzled, but the only way they'd have a chance making any more 'north' development happen is by keeping the Flames and adding the Stamps. There's a ton of empty land there already and people will be creeping in from the east village but they can't lose what they have already.

I heard on 770 about six months ago that the Stampede Board and the Flames have already agreed to build on the site of the Big Four since it was pretty trashed by the flood. Plus there's already two train stations right next to it.

This is only my two cents, but they'd have to present it as a big picture win-win-win-win for the city, U of C, Stampede and Flames. If you build on the south end of the grounds you could possibly build an arena, stadium, and retro-fit the grandstand all in one massive complex. The only way I could see any public money thrown into the project is if the Stampede has it's fingers in it so all levels of government can pretend to hold their noses and pump the funds in for 'culture'.

The city has plans already for the west village and the existing stadium area and I can't see them wanting to throw it all away. The U of C can sell off the stadium lands for redevelopment so the city gets the higher density growth they want.

I think years ago when this all started and it was just a hockey rink, it seemed certain that they would knock down the big four, build the building into the Round up center (i think it was still the round up center back then) and complete rebuild the Vic Park Station to be complete integrated into the complex.

Since then, it seems like the Flames and the Stampede have had issues, probably over Park Revenues and July Concert Revenues. And the Stampedes land just hasn't been talked about at all. (just speculating, but it seems like neither side is talking about working together anymore)

In that time the Flames also purchased ~1/6th of the Stamps & the roughnecks. and it seems like the project has grown anywhere from 3 to 5 times the initial scope.

From everything we are hearing it is possible the project could include all of a Average to Large Partly Covered CFL stadium, a extremely modern NHL rink, a large indoor field house (versatile amateur sports facility, soccer, track, CFL/NLL practices........), parkades, and probably a secondary ice surface + the bonus of direct indoor access to Condos/Hotels. There is just no space for all of that in the Big Four Location. The Stampede does own the land on the north end of Olympic ave, but that location would double the current distance from the LRT, and I think the Flames are just past working with the Stampede.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Bezer

So take this with a grain of salt, but a friend who works at the Saddledome mentioned that it looks like the plan is the area north of McMahon stadium as a potential build site for the new Saddledome, which will be based on cowboy hat (dunno how that will work and ugh..), the area includes the field and baseball stadium. Apparently it will be announced around Christmas time.

This makes a bit of sense to me because McMahon is ancient and the Stamps need a new Stadium, but they built new buildings right across the McMahon parking lot near the practice field which means to me they have plans to stay around there. I am wondering could they make one massive complex or two interconnected complexes? I think that would be pretty cool.

Again please take it with a grain of salt... but I wouldn't have posted if I didn't believe he wasn't being truthful.

I disagree.

[Muta]

Keep in mind, the area north of McMahon Stadium is earmarked for the new Calgary Fieldhouse.

http://www.calgaryfieldhouse.ca/



A CBC link from last year about the project's proposed location and approval:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...rdle-1.1351158