Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Slava

Sure, but the fact is losing articles and pieces from CTV, CBC and significant media outlets would be a huge price to pay. I know that this board probably doesn't get their news this way, but a lot of older people are still watching the news at 6pm. The CPC needs those outlets to play ball.

Yep. The articles about the lack of questions/follow-up are a starting point and you can see the media frustration building, but if they're going to cover PP they really need to highlight how all the questions are pre-selected.

My decisions already made but not being able to take unscripted questions from the media is disqualifying IMO.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yes, but if they were to limit or take away a license you'd just have the same parties crying about free speech and censorship. Just think about the faux outrage for Jordan Peterson being 'censored'

So? They are wrong. We don't have to not do the right thing just because people are loud.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

So? They are wrong. We don't have to not do the right thing just because people are loud.

Not saying you're wrong, I agree with you. Just pointing out the right wing outrage machine will always find something to be outraged about.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I honestly don’t know that they do in 2025. You’re right that a lot of older Canadians access their news from those sources. But from the CPC’s point of view, most of that demographic are locked in to their voting choices or in ridings that aren’t in play federally.

In the U.S., the Republicans have very little support in the MSM (Fox News, and that’s about it), while the Democrats dominate. But Trump doesn’t care about the NYT, NBC news, CNN, etc., because the American right dominates the online media space. That’s the strategy the CPC are taking under Poilievre. To his base, the MSM are the enemy.

I'm not sure I'd believe that to be their point of view, and if it is, it's kinda silly considering how much swing has occurred over the past two months. It should be pretty obvious a lot of votes are in play. Catering to fringe media only does one thing, make their granite base even more solid.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Torture

Not saying you're wrong, I agree with you. Just pointing out the right wing outrage machine will always find something to be outraged about.

So do toddlers, but good parents know when to ignore them. Then they can go to court, and be shut down there, too. Eventually they won't be able to generate enough revenue to stay in business. That would be a great success.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by indes

Definitely another misstep. The farther he ventures from the center to the left, the more small c conservatives he's going to lose, it's not a major issue for me but I disagree with the policy and anecdotally know more than a few people that this will give pause to.

EDIT: Just to pile on here, who does this policy appeal to? Really bizarre thing to have during a campaign where anyone for the gun buyback program would most likely already be voting for you.

In the original C-21 debate polling suggested that 70% of people were in favour of the “assault-style” weapons ban. Gun Control is a winning issue.

https://nawl.ca/majority-of-canadian...measures-poll/

I don’t understand how anyone can be against a buy back program. It doesn’t change the laws around what is and isn’t a legal firearm and provides a way of legal disposal for those who want to be compliant. Essentially if you are against the restrictions you can choose not to participate.

I think the overall package of measures is very reasonable and does not further restrict firearms ownership from today.

https://liberal.ca/mark-carneys-libe...r-communities/

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yep. The articles about the lack of questions/follow-up are a starting point and you can see the media frustration building, but if they're going to cover PP they really need to highlight how all the questions are pre-selected.

My decisions already made but not being able to take unscripted questions from the media is disqualifying IMO.

Other than the CBC, are other media outlets reporting on this? I did a quick google search on the Calgary Herald and didn't get any hits. Could just be my search criteria, but I wouldn't put it past Post Media to ignore the story.*

* I admit my bias is showing.

[StickMan]

Is the liberal party corrupt? Yes. Is the liberal party basically the same party as it was under Trudeau? Yes. Did the liberals run Canada into the ground in the last decade? Yes. Is Carney compromised by China? Yes. Will Carney put green net zero policy before what is good for Canada? Yes. Does Carneys wife work with Gerald Butts? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Century initiative? Yes. Is Carney associated with the WEF? Yes. Is Carneys wife associated with Ghislaine Maxwell? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Bilderberg group? Yes. Is Carney endorsed by Steven Guibeault? Yes. Is Justin Trudeau campaigning for Carney? Yes. Is Carney the god father of Christia Freeland kids? Yes. Is Carney Co-Chair of Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ)? Yes.

Carney is going to follow exactly in Justin Trudeaus footsteps, but with even more green net zero nonsense, that is what you will get if you give the liberals another term.

[Roughneck]

Is Carney better than Poilievre? Yes.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by OlivebranchMan

Is the liberal party corrupt? Yes. Is the liberal party basically the same party as it was under Trudeau? Yes. Did the liberals run Canada into the ground in the last decade? Yes. Is Carney compromised by China? Yes. Will Carney put green net zero policy before what is good for Canada? Yes. Does Carneys wife work with Gerald Butts? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Century initiative? Yes. Is Carney associated with the WEF? Yes. Is Carneys wife associated with Ghislaine Maxwell? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Bilderberg group? Yes. Is Carney endorsed by Steven Guibeault? Yes. Is Justin Trudeau campaigning for Carney? Yes. Is Carney the god father of Christia Freeland kids? Yes. Is Carney Co-Chair of Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ)? Yes.

Carney is going to follow exactly in Justin Trudeaus footsteps, but with even more green net zero nonsense, that is what you will get if you give the liberals another term.

hahahahhaahhahahahahaahhaaha

Did you see his crowd sizes? hahahahahahahaha

[Ben_in_Canada]

Originally Posted by GGG

In the original C-21 debate polling suggested that 70% of people were in favour of the “assault-style” weapons ban. Gun Control is a winning issue.

https://nawl.ca/majority-of-canadian...measures-poll/

I don’t understand how anyone can be against a buy back program. It doesn’t change the laws around what is and isn’t a legal firearm and provides a way of legal disposal for those who want to be compliant. Essentially if you are against the restrictions you can choose not to participate.

I think the overall package of measures is very reasonable and does not further restrict firearms ownership from today.

https://liberal.ca/mark-carneys-libe...r-communities/

The 70% in favour poll keeps getting rolled out, even though it was from a limited poll of 1000 from Toronto. The Governments own data where there were over 133,000 respondents, is overwhelmingly the opposite.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/r.../index-en.aspx.

In May 2020, they said you can simply buy something else to replace what was banned, and then they banned those too! And in the latest round they were banning .22's. 5 years and still not a cent of compensation.

[flamesfever]

Does the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes give a s*** about the West? No

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Does the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes give a s*** about the West? No

Does the West give a #### about the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes? No.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Does the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes give a s*** about the West? No

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Does the West give a #### about the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes? No.

is any of this really true like Canadians don't generally give a #### about Canadians? no.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Does the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes give a s*** about the West? No

This is such an idiotic and myopic take. Plenty of people have emigrated from the East to the West in recent years. You don't think they have family and friends back home who care about them?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Does the 905, Quebec and the Maritimes give a s*** about the West? No

Maybe it's just you they don't like

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Torture

Yep. The articles about the lack of questions/follow-up are a starting point and you can see the media frustration building, but if they're going to cover PP they really need to highlight how all the questions are pre-selected.

My decisions already made but not being able to take unscripted questions from the media is disqualifying IMO.

The Conservative leader took 65 questions in broadcast press conferences during the first two weeks of the campaign, compared to the 148 fielded by the Liberal leader, 163 by the Bloc leader, and 208 by the NDP leader.
PP has taken more questions from Lilley (Sun) than he has from all reporters from CTV, Canadian Press and CBC...combined.
The last q from tne CBC he took was March 27th

Thats Conservative media control.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Maybe it's just you they don't like

Dude is holding a grudge about the RCMP hiring French Canadians in like 1955 so that seems fair actually.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Dude is holding a grudge about the RCMP hiring French Canadians in like 1955 so that seems fair actually.

He's 90 years old. on par.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Is the liberal party corrupt? Yes. Is the liberal party basically the same party as it was under Trudeau? Yes. Did the liberals run Canada into the ground in the last decade? Yes. Is Carney compromised by China? Yes. Will Carney put green net zero policy before what is good for Canada? Yes. Does Carneys wife work with Gerald Butts? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Century initiative? Yes. Is Carney associated with the WEF? Yes. Is Carneys wife associated with Ghislaine Maxwell? Yes. Is Carney associated with the Bilderberg group? Yes. Is Carney endorsed by Steven Guibeault? Yes. Is Justin Trudeau campaigning for Carney? Yes. Is Carney the god father of Christia Freeland kids? Yes. Is Carney Co-Chair of Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ)? Yes.

Carney is going to follow exactly in Justin Trudeaus footsteps, but with even more green net zero nonsense, that is what you will get if you give the liberals another term.

Has PP released any sort of plan to how he intends to make any of the changes he's promised? Like at all? NO Are the majority of his promises just slogans? YES Harper endorsed him, but Harper is the head of the WEF- WTF? Is PP still limiting his media availability to 4 questions total after each campaign stop (all to favorable media outlets like Rebel and The Sun/ Lilley) and calling other reporters "protesters" for asking questions? YES Is PP a millionaire landlord despite only ever having a Government job who's campaign manager is a lobbyist for Loblaws amongst other large corporations? YES Is PP still dodging security clearance for reasons that are just made up? YES Was the Millhouse character based on PP? Probably Has he spent his entire time voting against things that would help the majority of Canadians and not just the rich YES Has PP passed even one meaningful piece of legislation in his 20 year career in government? NO Did he support the illegal occupation of our nation's capital by a gaggle of honking truckers? YES Has be mentioned on the campaign trail Canadian women and their ovaries that are none of his business? YES Does he hate woke (whatever that is) YES

He's a somehow less charismatic Harper clone who would be Trumps choice for PM for obvious reasons (most listed above)