[News] Gavin McKenna facing charges for assault UPD: felony charge withdrawn

[SuperMatt18]

Should McKenna have just walked away? Yes, probably

Is it ever smart to get in a bar fight? No, to many incidents end up escalating and end up with somebody seriously hurt and never the same. I've seen it first hand with friends in university.

Do I blame McKenna for doing it at all if his mom was pushed and verbally abused? Not even for a second.

It's easy to blame him with the benefit of hindsight and a level head, much harder to make that decision in the moment.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by D as in David

I've been leaning toward Stenberg, but I'm a little less concerned about McKenna's perimeter play now.

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Edmonton is usually interested in players that stick it to moms, not stick up for moms.

This thread is churning out some golden nuggets.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If his mom was attacked in any way that changes things.

If it was all verbal, I'd call it a regrettable lapse in judgement, but something he certainly can and should learn from.

[sureLoss]

Released on $20k bond

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[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Lots of internet tough guys commenting here.



It really isn't.

Do people get riled up and get in someone's face if they make an insulting comment? Yes, sometimes. Might even go at them in and give them a shove, make some threats. And it might escalate from there into a tussle (though usually it doesn't).

Is a typical response to immediately punch the person in the face with full force? Nope. Because A) most people don't have hair-trigger tempers, and B) unless they're hammered they know how dangerous a punch to the face can be. You can seriously mess up an unprepared, untrained person with a direct punch to the face. Guy got one-punched dead at the my local pub about 10 years ago. It's no joke.

We don't know what exactly happend with McKenna. But the people saying they'd cold-#### someone if they insulted their mom are either lying or morons.

Difficult to throw a punch when clutching all those pearls ain't it?

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Yeah..

People who try to instigate fights are typically low-vibing. Angry at life, envious of others, looking to drag someone down to their level and make them pay for biting. Sometimes it's just blind, misdirected anger. So it's important to recognize it for what it is and remain above it cognitively.

If you bite, they win. If you brush it off and completely reject whatever they're putting down, you win. You get to keep your peace, your life, your well-being, etc.

Let them stew in their negativity and don't let it infect you.

And yeah, if it comes to it, make sure they attack first so that anything that follows is seen as self-defense. And that's the time to be dangerous. But only then, IMO.

I've always found physical altercations easy to avoid, even with guys who are frothing at the mouth to get into it. You just never meet them where they're at (in anger). Pattern interrupt them with concern, confusion, or apathy. They're looking for a dance partner so it's usually as simple as not tangoing.

If you feel the need to answer every insult hurled your way (which means you give people power at any given moment), you'll make yourself vulnerable and unsafe to be around. Rearranging someone's face sounds satisfying, but we also live in the real world where nothing good comes out of it beyond the thrill. There's nothing that makes you feel stupider than paying months or years or some kind of irreparable damage for a momentary lapse in judgment.

Thanks Ian or Ray, whatever you like to be called

[sureLoss]

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[White Out 403]

If the other guy assaulted the Mom where is his charges?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

If the other guy assaulted the Mom where is his charges?

No broken jaw, no proof, I would imagine.

Basically the same as DOPS handing out suspensions based on the length of the injury instead of the severity of the infraction.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

No broken jaw, no proof, I would imagine.

Basically the same as DOPS handing out suspensions based on the length of the injury instead of the severity of the infraction.

I'm sure if there was a bar full of witnesses in a college town where McKenna is a popular guy there would be plenty of happy witnesses.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Beninho

To quote Marty from Marty Supreme

“You want to get physical? Like an ape?”

A line that will guarantee fisticuffs lol.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm sure if there was a bar full of witnesses in a college town where McKenna is a popular guy there would be plenty of happy witnesses.

We're talking about campus police here. They're not exactly known for the quality of their work.

[Bubba17]

Originally Posted by Jbo

So we are comparing a pre-mediated assassination murder to a bar fight with teenagers?

That is not what he said. His comment had to do with some of the ###### bag remarks about it being ok to kill Charlie Kirk because of what he said but now people say McKenna should have turned the other cheek. Amazing how it's ok if you agree that Kirk's words were bad but the guy who got punched was just words.

[Beninho]

Just speculation but I read his specific felony charge often caries the implication of not stopping while someones down

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

I'm sure if there was a bar full of witnesses in a college town where McKenna is a popular guy there would be plenty of happy witnesses.

It's rare these days for bars and clubs to not have security cameras covering more of the place, so there could also be video evidence. Especially if it wasn't some random dive bar.

I'd be wary of anyone believing right away what they read on social media unless it's from a known credible source. All we know for sure now is that there was an altercation that resulted in McKenna striking a person at least twice and causing pretty bad facial injuries.

[Samonadreau]

Isnt Drinking age 21 down there? Not a good look on the bar.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by YYC in LAX

Truculence

My login name finally means something again

[Beninho]

2702(A)(1): attempts to cause serious bodily injury to another, or causes such injury intentionally, knowingly or recklessly under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life

Doesn’t sound good, we’ll see what the video shows

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

Isnt Drinking age 21 down there? Not a good look on the bar.

Can be in any pub (meaning that it also serves food) here (IL) at any time. No idea if it is the same in Pennsylvania, but probably

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bubba17

That is not what he said. His comment had to do with some of the ###### bag remarks about it being ok to kill Charlie Kirk because of what he said but now people say McKenna should have turned the other cheek. Amazing how it's ok if you agree that Kirk's words were bad but the guy who got punched was just words.

It’s an extremely stupid comment no matter how you frame it, as is the suggestion that “people” were saying one thing about the Kirk situation, “But now people say” something different about McKenna situation, as if on a message board with hundreds of participants, it’s hard to grasp that different people might say different things, especially when the situations are completely different.

Some of you are in serious need of normal socialization.