01-24-2025, 08:29 PM
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#221
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Unless he was trying to take Colorado to the cleaners which I doubt, this is a pretty big disrespect for Rantanen. I can see him going nuts for Carolina. Was a captain in Finland as a 17 year old in a men's league.
Colorado just dug it's own grave IMO.
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You don't think Rantanen wasn't trying to take them to the cleaners after what he just saw Draisaitl get?
With him they were a wild card team like Calgary. Why would you pay through the roof for a 29-36 year old?
They got a pretty good stack of stuff for <40 games of Rantanen.
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01-24-2025, 08:29 PM
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#222
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Zambia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Which doesn't make sense if the cap is much higher. It's like saying you have to play by the old rules, here are the new ones.
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It might to MacKinnon... He's been taking pay cuts on his contacts to keep the team competitive to help win.
If Rantanen wanted much more, I can see that upsetting the apple cart that is the Avs dressing room.
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01-24-2025, 08:31 PM
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#223
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musth
It might to MacKinnon... He's been taking pay cuts on his contacts to keep the team competitive to help win.
If Rantanen wanted much more, I can see that upsetting the apple cart that is the Avs dressing room.
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You might be right but man, I just can't see MacKinnon being that guy.
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01-24-2025, 08:31 PM
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#224
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1) no way am I paying him $14M
2) no way am I paying him more than MacKinnon.
Take the trade and move on. Especially since whoever they slot into Rantanen's spot, instantly becomes a much, much better player.
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01-24-2025, 08:33 PM
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#225
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Who are the Avs going to play on MacKinnon's wing? Looking at that roster right now, doesn't look good. Anyone saying Rantanen is going to see a drop in production needs to look at what MacKinnon will be working with....
Am guessing another deal is on its way.
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01-24-2025, 08:33 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Only guy who's gonna make more than MaK is Makar.
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01-24-2025, 08:35 PM
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#227
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Only guy who's gonna make more than MaK is Makar.
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Because Calgary will be paying him 14 in two years.
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01-24-2025, 08:36 PM
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#228
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Who are the Avs going to play on MacKinnon's wing? Looking at that roster right now, doesn't look good. Anyone saying Rantanen is going to see a drop in production needs to look at what MacKinnon will be working with....
Am guessing another deal is on its way.
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They have other solid scorers. Not as dynamic but can score.
Valeri Nichushkin is one of them.
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01-24-2025, 08:39 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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If Colorado was such a loaded team with Rantanen then why are they where they are in the standings? Winnipeg and Minnesota? Dallas? Don't talk to me about goaltending when they have worse xGA/60 than Edmonton with their all-world tandem.
Wasted money on Toews, that's for sure. Probably learned from that retirement contract mistake.
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01-24-2025, 08:41 PM
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#230
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CFO
They have other solid scorers. Not as dynamic but can score.
Valeri Nichushkin is one of them.
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Believe Nichushkin is out week-to-week with a lower body injury. After Nichushkin they have...?
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01-24-2025, 08:47 PM
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#232
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Ballsy move by Carolina. I hope it works out for them. Less cowards as GM's would make the NHL more interesting. Colorado...look like cowards
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01-24-2025, 08:49 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Ballsy move by Carolina. I hope it works out for them. Less cowards as GM's would make the NHL more interesting. Colorado...look like cowards
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I actually think this is more ballsy for Colorado then it is Carolina.
Trading your cup winning 100 point winger is pretty damn ballsy.
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01-24-2025, 08:50 PM
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#234
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
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Paywalled.
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Ballsy move by Carolina. I hope it works out for them. Less cowards as GM's would make the NHL more interesting. Colorado...look like cowards
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Why do they look like cowards? For getting a veritable haul for 33 games of a star player at age 28? When Landeskog is practicing again?
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01-24-2025, 08:51 PM
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#235
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
Believe Nichushkin is out week-to-week with a lower body injury. After Nichushkin they have...?
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Drouin looks to have turned the page. Lamdeskog been skating for 3-4 weeks. He might be back. Necas will be there. Lekonen or whatever his name is like a bigger version Coleman. Makar is basically a forward.
The Ava issue isn't scoring before or now, it's depth. I see them adding after this as well too.
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01-24-2025, 08:56 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I'd be very very worried about giving Rantanen $12M+
Rantanen and MacKinnon together: 55.2% xGF / 59.6% GF% (2550 Minutes)
Mackinnon w/o Rantanen: 54.6% xGF / 62.6% GF% (872 Minutes)
Rantanen w/o MacKinnon: 45.8% xGF / 45.9% GF% (989 Minutes)
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I posted this in the trade and rumour thread this morning but this is why I'd be a bit worried about giving Rantanen $12M+
Now for Carolina it's a bit less risky because they have a center in Aho, who Rantanen has had some experience with on the international stage for Finland, but you never know.
Who knows maybe it's like Huberdeau and this trade crushes his confidence.
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01-24-2025, 08:58 PM
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#237
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Imagine making $9 million a year and having your confidence crushed over a trade.
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01-24-2025, 09:01 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by butterfly
Imagine making $9 million a year and having your confidence crushed over a trade.
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You just never know.
I doubt he thought Colorado would be moving him.
Carolina is much more rigid and structured in their system than Colorado is.
And even though Aho is great he's not Mackinnon.
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01-24-2025, 09:02 PM
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#239
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I actually think this is more ballsy for Colorado then it is Carolina.
Trading your cup winning 100 point winger is pretty damn ballsy.
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Keeping an unsigned UFA for one last shot in the playoffs and thinking you could sign him as a UFA to me would be ballsy. Trading that player for more pieces and picks seems like a more calculated cautious move.
These bold moves seldom get rewarded in the NHL.
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01-24-2025, 09:03 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CFO
Drouin looks to have turned the page. Lamdeskog been skating for 3-4 weeks. He might be back. Necas will be there. Lekonen or whatever his name is like a bigger version Coleman. Makar is basically a forward.
The Ava issue isn't scoring before or now, it's depth. I see them adding after this as well too.
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Droiun has turned so many pages at stages of his career, he's got a cramp.
Landeskog was a great player and still might be one. Might. He hasn't played a second of an NHL game for 31 months...7 weeks after the Flames beat Dallas.
The cap space that Colorado has to add between now and the deadline will be they key here short term, and clearly they weren't going to afford MacKinnon and him long term.
He won't re sign with Carolina, but they've made their move to push this season to take on the Caps.
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