02-11-2024, 01:35 PM
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#221
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
It broke some nonsense “code”.
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True but nobody was attacked with a weapon
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02-11-2024, 01:37 PM
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#222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
True but nobody was attacked with a weapon
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Dude… I didn’t say it was identical to the incident last night….. I said basketball was just as dumb, to a post where you were generalizing the ridiculousness of the code.
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02-11-2024, 01:38 PM
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#223
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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To be honest, the non-stop showboating in the NBA is a big reason why I don't watch basketball.
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02-11-2024, 01:39 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Dude… I didn’t say it was identical to the incident last night….. I said basketball was just as dumb, to a post where you were generalizing the ridiculousness of the code.
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I get it but I disagree, hockey is on another level for unwritten rules
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02-11-2024, 01:39 PM
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#225
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Pent-up
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
I get it but I disagree, hockey is on another level for unwritten rules
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Cool.
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02-11-2024, 02:12 PM
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#226
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CroCop
Are you really offended that a player scored a goal this way and earlier suggested he also be penalized, fined or suspended also? It’s just an unusual take.
Right or wrong he will have to drop the mits as a result of all this when the time comes and he would understand this now. If you want to see a penalty this is what it will be and it will be over.
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Definitely a penalty, a 2 minute minor.
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Originally Posted by dino7c
No more dunks in the NBA, lay-ups only so no feelings are hurt
Hockey is so dumb sometimes
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There are technical fouls for excessive dunking or hanging onto the rim too enthusiastically. Also, in the NBA teams no longer score once the team behind quits and no longer fouls.
As I mentioned before, Greig could have just skated the puck into the corner, the game was over as the clock was ticking down under 10 seconds. Toronto was not getting the puck back.
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02-11-2024, 02:16 PM
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#227
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
As I mentioned before, Greig could have just skated the puck into the corner, the game was over as the clock was ticking down under 10 seconds.
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Not taking a free goal is arguably even more disrespectful
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02-11-2024, 02:17 PM
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#228
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
Definitely a penalty, a 2 minute minor.
There are technical fouls for excessive dunking or hanging onto the rim too enthusiastically. Also, in the NBA teams no longer score once the team behind quits and no longer fouls.
As I mentioned before, Greig could have just skated the puck into the corner, the game was over as the clock was ticking down under 10 seconds. Toronto was not getting the puck back.
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lol this is beyond ridiculous, he should put it in the net every single time
and are you suggesting a penalty for shooting too hard!
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02-11-2024, 02:20 PM
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#229
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Definitely a penalty, a 2 minute minor.
There are technical fouls for excessive dunking or hanging onto the rim too enthusiastically. Also, in the NBA teams no longer score once the team behind quits and no longer fouls.
As I mentioned before, Greig could have just skated the puck into the corner, the game was over as the clock was ticking down under 10 seconds. Toronto was not getting the puck back.
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To each their own, but this is absurd. Should a team be penalized for putting out PP1 unit when they're up by 3 or more? Should there be a limit on how much star players can play when they have a lead? What about Michigan goals or between the legs? Those are disrespectful to the goalie, penalize or outlaw them?
It's kind of ironic you're comparing to the NBA that promotes showmanship by trying to eliminate any personality in the NHL because another player might get upset.
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02-11-2024, 02:28 PM
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#230
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Did he taunt the Leafs after scoring the empty netter? If the Leafs don't want to be scored on when their net is empty, then don't let the other team get the puck when you have one extra player on the ice in the offensive zone.
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02-11-2024, 02:33 PM
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#231
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Originally Posted by midniteowl
Did he taunt the Leafs after scoring the empty netter? If the Leafs don't want to be scored on when their net is empty, then don't let the other team get the puck when you have one extra player on the ice in the offensive zone.
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he didn't even put his arms in the air for crying out loud
oh well, Sens win...Leafs player gets a lengthy suspension at the most important time of the season
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all is right in the end
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02-11-2024, 02:34 PM
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#232
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I am kind of surprised seeing so many people hate on "the code". The unwritten code is one of the things that makes hockey hockey. Running a star player will have consequences, don't touch the goalie, no punching while someone is down, etc etc.
I have no issues with the Leafs not liking that play and wanting to respond. BUT, the response was over the top and stupid. So yeah, code fine. A response, good. Crosscheck to the head? Better be a suspension.
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02-11-2024, 02:37 PM
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#233
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IMO Ridley Grieg taking a full wind up at an empty net in the final seconds of a great hockey game adds flavour to the NHL. However, it's the big leagues and he's gotta expect that the opposing team would not be happy with that stunt.
What Morgan Rielly did was wrong and dumb. Fight the guy next time you see him, don't jump him when he's not looking.
This league has felt so watered down of characters, rivalries, and villans the last 5 years.
Tkachuk vs. Kassian revived the BOA in 2018. It made hockey fun in Alberta when it hadn't been for 10+ years.
I think back Ovi with his "Hot stick" or "Push-up" cellys. Everyone hated him and called him for hot-dogging. But his arc of maturity and winning the Cup 10 years later (I think at least) brought a tear to the eyes of collective hockey fans.
Let the players show boat. Let them piss off other teams and fans. Let them become characters and villans. But beware, you'll have to step up to the plate if you want to play that way.
TLDR: Grieg iconic. Rielly 6 games for being a goon.
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02-11-2024, 02:38 PM
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#234
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Groot
To each their own, but this is absurd. Should a team be penalized for putting out PP1 unit when they're up by 3 or more? Should there be a limit on how much star players can play when they have a lead? What about Michigan goals or between the legs? Those are disrespectful to the goalie, penalize or outlaw them?
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Maybe. Other sports have deemed certain things penalties. The NHL has not so it's up to the teams to decide.
The cross check is wrong and he's going to get a big suspension. But if he had ragdolled Greig, what would we be saying today? Would we still be calling Rielly a baby?
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02-11-2024, 02:40 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by カナダ人です
I am kind of surprised seeing so many people hate on "the code". The unwritten code is one of the things that makes hockey hockey. Running a star player will have consequences, don't touch the goalie, no punching while someone is down, etc etc.
I have no issues with the Leafs not liking that play and wanting to respond. BUT, the response was over the top and stupid. So yeah, code fine. A response, good. Crosscheck to the head? Better be a suspension.
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these are a little different then shooting the puck to hard and an inanimate object. Games, playoff spots, can be decided by ####ing shootout, the hot dog ship has sailed.
And the player that did it was already high sticked by a Leafs player with no call so yeah he finished it off with authority
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02-11-2024, 02:43 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
And the player that did it was already high sticked by a Leafs player with no call so yeah he finished it off with authority
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That, I think, sufficiently explains what Greig did. ‘Ya wanna play rough, do ya? Well, take this!’
It was, in an unusually literal sense for hockey, a shot fired in anger.
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02-11-2024, 02:44 PM
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#237
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GirlySports
Maybe. Other sports have deemed certain things penalties. The NHL has not so it's up to the teams to decide.
The cross check is wrong and he's going to get a big suspension. But if he had ragdolled Greig, what would we be saying today? Would we still be calling Rielly a baby?
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Yes, because people having hurt feelings over stuff like this are being babys.
Getting mad because somebody takes a slap shot into an empty net, flips their bat after a home run, or does a 360 windmill at the end of the game is soft and is ridiculous whenever it happens.
Grown men playing a kids game and they get hurt feelings because somebody did something that they didn't like that had no real impact on them outside of them being soft as baby poop.
Don't like it then don't let them get an empty net breakaway with nobody in 20 feet of them.
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02-11-2024, 02:47 PM
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#238
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
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Anyone who thinks a slapper into an empty net adds flavour or entertainment to hockey has a wildly different interpretation of excitement at nhl games than I do.
The resulting brawl maybe, sure. But a slap shot into an empty net increased your entertainment value? Seriously? Comparing it to a fancy dunk in basketball is asinine.
You can argue all day long with the unwritten code about respect is stupid, but I don’t know how anyone makes the argument that this adds flavour and personality to hockey. It’s not a skill play. It’s not exciting. It’s something any crappy fourth liner could do.
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02-11-2024, 02:53 PM
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#239
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Going over and giving him a shove and a punch is probably fine (but still silly and outdated).
Going over and cross checking him in the back of the head is something that I hope sees a double digit suspension (it won't, but it should).
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02-11-2024, 02:54 PM
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#240
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I'm sorry, may be I don't understand hockey well enough. What is wrong with Ridley Grieg taking a slap shot at an empty net? Why does it matter how the empty net goal is scored? And why does he needs to answer the bell? To me, when Pissy spear someone's groin, he should have his head chopped off! This? It's just nothing burger. I just don't get why the Leafs are upset.
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