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Old 04-18-2023, 10:01 AM   #221
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If somebody in Atlanta wants to build a new rink and then spend close to a $1B on expansion fees to try to have a team there then you'd be foolish to not let them if you are Bettman.
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Old 04-18-2023, 10:52 AM   #222
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The problem Quebec has is that the NHL already sort of took a risk with Winnipeg and they're already having commercials begging fans to come support the team and fill the stadium. It's only been like 4 years or whatever.
The Jets came back 12 years ago.
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I've never been but I hear it's beautiful. Will have to add it to my bucket list.
To me it's as close as you can come to a European city in NA. Old Montreal and some areas in Boston are similar.
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Old 04-18-2023, 11:00 AM   #224
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To me it's as close as you can come to a European city in NA. Old Montreal and some areas in Boston are similar.
Charleston SC as well.
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Old 04-18-2023, 11:03 AM   #225
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The Jets came back 12 years ago.
Yikes, really?!

I'm old haha.

But if I'm old that makes you......
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Old 04-18-2023, 11:04 AM   #226
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I mean, we don't need to go down this path here, but this is objectively untrue.
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all I see is other places being able to figure it out, and Calgary not.
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Old 04-18-2023, 11:14 AM   #227
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Houston makes sense. Portland and Kansas City seem more viable to me than trying Atlanta again though. Hell, you could even argue Baltimore or Cincy.

Although we all know who should really get another chance.
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Old 04-18-2023, 01:27 PM   #228
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all I see is other places being able to figure it out, and Calgary not.
This argument might work if Edwards had successfully built arenas in other cities, but as it stands CSEC is clearly the issue (CoC already voted to approve a deal FFS)
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:07 PM   #229
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I hope we expose some of those long-term cap anchors.
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:15 PM   #230
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I hope we expose some of those long-term cap anchors.
No its the Flames way that by time this comes around they will be coming through a rebuild/retool and lose a couple players that would have been able to contribute.
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:22 PM   #231
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I understand it's a business, but isn't the NHL watered down enough? The quality of the product is already pretty bad.
If you look at 1996 (expansion to 26 teams) and compare it to the world population at the time, equivalently diluted talent would be 35 teams today.

No idea if more or less kids are playing per capita, globally. I couldn't find those numbers.
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Old 04-18-2023, 02:39 PM   #232
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charleston sc as well.
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I think a lot of fans think because they had a team once, that they can do it again not considering or realizing just how small that market is. It may not be large enough for the CFL let alone the NHL. The league is a lot bigger today and cities like Calgary with just over a million people are small market. Quebec City simply isn't a market big enough to support an NHL team nor is it a TV market that's going to help grow revenues.
How many big markets actually make a difference with tv viewership? Do the Kings or Dallas or another big city actually generate huge tv ratings? If a city is a big market but only a small percentage of the population is actually interested in the sport, is it really a "big market"?
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Old 04-24-2023, 12:37 PM   #234
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If you look at 1996 (expansion to 26 teams) and compare it to the world population at the time, equivalently diluted talent would be 35 teams today.

No idea if more or less kids are playing per capita, globally. I couldn't find those numbers.
The number of hockey players in Canada is not only unable to keep up with population growth, but is in decline.
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Old 04-24-2023, 12:41 PM   #235
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How many big markets actually make a difference with tv viewership? Do the Kings or Dallas or another big city actually generate huge tv ratings? If a city is a big market but only a small percentage of the population is actually interested in the sport, is it really a "big market"?
I'm always amazed at how many people in Dallas are fans. The games are often on TV in bars (even when the Mavs are playing). The viewership here is higher than people assume I suspect.
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Old 04-25-2023, 06:56 AM   #236
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How many big markets actually make a difference with tv viewership? Do the Kings or Dallas or another big city actually generate huge tv ratings? If a city is a big market but only a small percentage of the population is actually interested in the sport, is it really a "big market"?
It's the potential of viewership that makes it a big market. The payoff can be more significant than what you can get in a city like Calgary.
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