[PGT] Vegas wins in OT 4-3

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Kerr on After Burner: “this team needs to get into the playoffs, it’s a reality of the situation. They need the revenue…”

That stood out to me a little bit.

I'm not reading to much into this. If Kerr heard those words verbatim or if he knows ownerships mentality. Ownership has conducted business for decades with playoff revenue on a year to year basis as priority. Its the main reason this team has been mediocre for decades, they either don't understand or are unwilling to make decisions that may mean sacrificing some years of pain to potentially build something that is more than just a flash in the pan.

As business moguls they surely understand the importance of long term growth and success, but obviously doing this in the finance, oil/gas, etc., world is vastly different than building a hockey team. Which is why I believe the Calgary Flames are more of a fancy toy to them, a toy that they manage whatever way that makes them happy. Unfortunate for us die hards who hope to one day see a consistent championship contender on the ice, filled with superstar level talent, that is entertaining as hell to watch, seems less likely.

And for those who want to bring up the likes of Edmonton/Buffalo and not Chicago/Pittsburgh, etc, I'm not guaranteeing that rebuilding properly is going to ensure being on the better side of the 4 teams I mentioned above, but personally I'd be much supportive of a team that learned from past mistakes and changed course after failure, vs a mediocre hope and prayer product year after year.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

Being I'm living in the UK for the moment, I don't get to watch many other teams. However, are there any other teams which start their most defensive and likely the least offensive defenseman in OT off the draw?

It seems that Sutter loves to put Tanev out there at the start. I get the jest of it, in case the flames lose the faceoff. However, that goes to show how the Flames just love to play it safe in most aspects.

I'll say again - OT is a race to score

You're past the time for prevent hockey once you hit OT

Just an asinine philosophy for trying to secure the second point

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

Being I'm living in the UK for the moment, I don't get to watch many other teams. However, are there any other teams which start their most defensive and likely the least offensive defenseman in OT off the draw?

It seems that Sutter loves to put Tanev out there at the start. I get the jest of it, in case the flames lose the faceoff. However, that goes to show how the Flames just love to play it safe in most aspects.

Mate, it’s like fitbool - that’s yer man and you check yer man. Vegas Top Line vs Calgary Shutdown Line all night. Eichel gets the last laugh.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Everyone is looking at the Wild as being the team to catch and while that's obviously a viable option given the two games left with them, I also got my eyes on a couple different avenues.

Seattle-CGY is 4points back. SEA has a game in hand. Losers of two in a row. Do they have what it takes to power thru and hold down their spot? I'm not convinced they're that good of a team. Still 3 games vs the Stars and 2 vs VGK. They got 4 games in six nights next week all on the road. That's a tough stretch.

LAK-CGY is 6 back, games are even. LA has lost two in a row, has three tough road games in next 5 days. Flames still has two games against the Kings.

Colorado-Injury depleted. Only 1 point up on CGY but 4 in hand. Been waiting for Avs to pull away and I still think they will, but maybe they don't either. They can't stay healthy. 3 vs SJ and 3 vs Ari isn't good for CGY though.


With the Flames securing 3 of 4 points the last two nights, it's kind of opened up more routes to the playoffs than what we were looking at after the Philly loss.

Still lots of hockey to be played. Flames are obviously in tough, but the white towel shouldn't be in anyone's hands right now.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

Being I'm living in the UK for the moment, I don't get to watch many other teams. However, are there any other teams which start their most defensive and likely the least offensive defenseman in OT off the draw?

It seems that Sutter loves to put Tanev out there at the start. I get the jest of it, in case the flames lose the faceoff. However, that goes to show how the Flames just love to play it safe in most aspects.

I’d start with anderson, mangiapane, backlund

Then Hanifin, dube, lindholm

Speed and offensive defensemen.

Keep Huberdeau, Kadri and Tanev off the ice.

[Burning Beard]

Do the Flames and Wranglers share the goalie coach? It's odd how both the big goalies make themselves so small.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Everyone is looking at the Wild as being the team to catch and while that's obviously a viable option given the two games left with them, I also got my eyes on a couple different avenues.

Seattle-CGY is 4points back. SEA has a game in hand. Losers of two in a row. Do they have what it takes to power thru and hold down their spot? I'm not convinced they're that good of a team. Still 3 games vs the Stars and 2 vs VGK. They got 4 games in six nights next week all on the road. That's a tough stretch.

LAK-CGY is 6 back, games are even. LA has lost two in a row, has three tough road games in next 5 days. Flames still has two games against the Kings.

Colorado-Injury depleted. Only 1 point up on CGY but 4 in hand. Been waiting for Avs to pull away and I still think they will, but maybe they don't either. They can't stay healthy. 3 vs SJ and 3 vs Ari isn't good for CGY though.


With the Flames securing 3 of 4 points the last two nights, it's kind of opened up more routes to the playoffs than what we were looking at after the Philly loss.

Still lots of hockey to be played. Flames are obviously in tough, but the white towel shouldn't be in anyone's hands right now.

Flames could help out by keeping their side of the street clean, and that seems to be the problem right now

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'll say again - OT is a race to score

You're past the time for prevent hockey once you hit OT

Just an asinine philosophy for trying to secure the second point

I completely agree with that. That's why it was great to have Johnny out there for OT. Speed and agility. Make plays and win.

Get possession and go for the point.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Do the Flames and Wranglers share the goalie coach? It's odd how both the big goalies make themselves so small.

If they bound their limbs to each corner of the net, less pucks would go in than there currently are

[Goriders]

Flames magic number for elimination (compared to the Wild) is 23. Flames have 23 games left and the Wild have 24.

They are going to have to win 2 out of 3 from here on out to get in the last spot. They are trending to 92 points. 97 looks to be the WC2 benchmark.

I just can’t see it happening. They piss away too many opportunities.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Homer glasses

Outshot 9-1 in the 3rd

lol and the other 2 periods

they also lost in 3 on 3 OT...that hardly shows Vegas "would sweep them in 4"

Calgary also played last night, nobody in the west is scary

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol and the other 2 periods

they also lost in 3 on 3 OT...that hardly shows Vegas "would sweep them in 4"

I'd assume 6, because I'd give Vegas 1 at the dome and all 3 in Vegas since the Flames are allergic to that building.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol and the other 2 periods

they also lost in 3 on 3 OT...that hardly shows Vegas "would sweep them in 4"

Calgary also played last night, nobody in the west is scary

The Flames are scary

Not in a good way

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

The Flames are scary

Not in a good way

Flames might not make it but if they did they would put up a fight...Flames very rarely get blown out, they also wouldn't exactly have a lot of pressure on them. And like I said no 3 on 3, I like their chances better in 5 on 5 OT

[Goriders]

I think you’re definitely right on the 5 on 5 vs 3 on 3 comment.

The Flames do play a good playoff style. But I think their penchant for defensive and goaltending lapses would probably end up with similar results as the regular season

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Flames might not make it but if they did they would put up a fight...Flames very rarely get blown out, they also wouldn't exactly have a lot of pressure on them. And like I said no 3 on 3, I like their chances better in 5 on 5 OT

Team lacks in net and upfront. They struggle to get timely big saves and clutch scoring. I think it would be a struggle either way.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Have we won in Vegas? Ever?

It's actually our first ever point. Before this game we had only led 2 out of 420 minutes in Vegas.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sutter hangs it on Vladdy pretty hard.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628984624327323648

He certainly treats his two goalies very differently in the media.

Understandable.IMO

Ones a goalie in his second year in the league and ones a grizzled vet a year out from a veznia consideration.

Expectations are a fair bit different I would say.

I don't think he was harsh on Vladar just stating a fact . I think he's harder on Markstrom usually because he is suppose to be elite.

[Flames1217]

It's crazy to think that we would be a near elite team with just average goaltending.

Goaltending is killing this team.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Sadly Markstrom is the problem and Vladar is not looking like the solution.