Where is the CTE stuff coming from? Joe Rogan was never a pro fighter - he had 3 amateur kickboxing fights so I doubt that caused massive head trauma (having had some fights myself at that level).
He was a Tae Kwon Do State champ. He competing in various martial arts from the age of 13 to 20 but stopped due to his headaches.
"I'm old as #####," Rogan said with a laugh. "If I was competing still when the UFC was around, I probably would have done something ... when I stopped fighting, it was in 1989, that was the last kickboxing fight I had. And there was nothing, there was no money in it. And I was getting headaches just from sparring."
Remember when Joe had a doctor on his podcast whose whole schtick was “HIV didn’t cause AIDS” and the only person he brought on to push back was future accused rapist Bryan Callen?
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Remember when Joe had a doctor on his podcast whose whole schtick was “HIV didn’t cause AIDS” and the only person he brought on to push back was future accused rapist Bryan Callen?
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Heck I remember when he thought the moon landings were fake.
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He's literally a comedian that now does long-form discussions.
To think that people are outraged over what he says is laughable.
To think that he should be canceled, removed or have his contract terminated is pathetic.
I can understand that if he is airing controversial medical discussions, Spotify should label them as cautionary, but since when did people start agreeing with silencing people for supposed misinformation, and who is going to be the 'fact checker' that decides what is misinformation.
Of course, if the shoe were on the other foot, the outrage in reverse would be hilarious.
As for misinformation being peddled around that everyone is still outraged about, amirite?
Congratulations, you just found the difference between a misinformation peddler and since, here's a challenge for you, find one person a the WHO who continued to says this even weeks later, one person.
As for Joe Rogan...i have never heard a second of his podcasts. Was he stirring contreversy before moving to spotify?
Hell yes. He's not very bright and even less careful about what he says, and he would put up a dozen hours or more every week, totally unedited, of him talking to random, sometimes very weird guests with questionable credentials, often while high, and try to be funny off the cuff. There was absolutely no way he wasn't going to say a bunch of extremely controversial stuff given those parameters.
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A few sore heads after sparring doesn’t equate to CTE. If it does then I’m CTEd into bolivia
Don't worry doctors believe it's repetitive hits to the head that cause it, not hits to the shins.
But saying anything definitive about CTE is nearing a fool's errand at this point. It's not so much the headaches but the cause of the headaches, the repeated brain trauma, and then him exhibiting symptoms of early stage CTE.
As they're finding it in student athletes and people who never experienced a concussion but rather just repetitive subconcussive hits, I certainly wouldn't rule it out for someone like Joe. Especially if he was participating in as many matches of taekwondo as he said he did. Also it's a degenerative brain disease. It's not binary. Not everyone is going to have Aaron Hernandez level of tau protein, but a person who fought for nearly a decade in some capacity wouldn't be the least likely person of all time to have CTE.
Also despite the claims of Rogan being some form of multi-time state champion and blah blah blah, I can't find any evidence of the claims of him actually winning the US open taekwondo championship or whatever.
I can excuse the racism but I draw the line at lying about childhood accomplishments.
I’ll keep this short as don’t want to sidetrack this thread. However, taekwondo competitors don’t really take many head hits. It’s a kicking sport and most are to the body. Yes, you can get Ko’d with a kick to the head but if Joe was winning like he says then I’d say he took very few hard head hits. So I’m going to say that he is exaggerating greatly.
I have watched his podcasts before for his interesting guests like De Grasse Tyson, Musk, Loeb and Fridman. However, I’ve stopped watching him completely due to the increasing inanity and now only really watch Fridmans own podcast which is way more interesting than anything Rogan currently pumps out.
Hell yes. He's not very bright and even less careful about what he says, and he would put up a dozen hours or more every week, totally unedited, of him talking to random, sometimes very weird guests with questionable credentials, often while high, and try to be funny off the cuff. There was absolutely no way he wasn't going to say a bunch of extremely controversial stuff given those parameters.
We should no more cancel Joe Rogan for these old comments than cancel Bill Maher for calling himself a house not-a-word-I-can-use.
People say all sorts of crazy ####. You kinda have to let them. Some pretty basic “may not agree with what they say but defend to the death their right to say it” sorta stuff.
That's Joe Rogan over stating his accomplishments and abilities. He was terrible. And is still laughed about in the TKD scene for his "accomplishments".
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Leftist media completely structured itself around Trump, with Trump gone, they need a new boogey-man. Enter Joe Rogan.
Are you afraid of Joe Rogan, yet? He's a racist, white supremacist and he wants your children on all meat diets and ice baths. Tremble before his might and stay tuned for endless, pointless updates from all your favourite media organizations that he is somehow more popular and trusted than.
I doubt Rogan is racist but he is certainly sloppy. That's to be expected when you are an 'edgy' comedian having free-form conversations for hours while trying to be engaging. Trying to de-platform comedians for offensive jokes is problematic.
The bigger issue with Rogan is that he is constantly platforming people with extreme and occasionally dangerous views. These aren't presented as funny conversations or jokes but as serious discussions around policy and, in the case of Covid, public health. Sometimes he pushes back on his guests but a lot of times he goes along with them and even eggs them on. He has the right to free speech for expressing his opinion on any subject he wants, including exposing his guests to millions of people. But spreading misinformation should have consequences, particularly if it can lead to harmful outcomes for other people. I'm not sure what those consequences should be. At a minimum, I think he should remove all of his medical misinformation podcasts, the same way he removed the 'racist' ones, followed by a clarification. But he won't because he is too far down the Covid rabbit-hole. Does Spotify do it themselves? If so, they can be seen as trying to muzzle his free-speech. Honestly, I think the public outrage may be the correct action in this case. Not sure if anything will come from it though.
I like Rogan in that he is a good conversationalist but he really has to do much better.
Leftist media completely structured itself around Trump, with Trump gone, they need a new boogey-man. Enter Joe Rogan.
Are you afraid of Joe Rogan, yet? He's a racist, white supremacist and he wants your children on all meat diets and ice baths. Tremble before his might and stay tuned for endless, pointless updates from all your favourite media organizations that he is somehow more popular and trusted than.
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He's literally a comedian that now does long-form discussions.
To think that people are outraged over what he says is laughable.
He just said in that video above your post in response to a guy saying he had a black father and white mother, "a powerful combination - a black man's body and a white man's mind".
Why is it laughable for people to be outraged over that, among other things? It's a horrible thing to say, and I don't get the impression he was saying it as any part of a comedic skit. It sounded like he believed what he was saying was genuine.
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Leftist media completely structured itself around Trump, with Trump gone, they need a new boogey-man. Enter Joe Rogan.
Are you afraid of Joe Rogan, yet? He's a racist, white supremacist and he wants your children on all meat diets and ice baths. Tremble before his might and stay tuned for endless, pointless updates from all your favourite media organizations that he is somehow more popular and trusted than.
It's tiresome how many right-wing "independent thinkers" love to make themselves the victim.
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