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Old 05-11-2021, 03:00 PM   #221
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But I have literally never heard him reference "the process" as some sort of team building philosophy or guiding principle.
Everything's a process with him...
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I can understand Elliot seeing the team needed to improve goaltending. It didn't work out but I can't criticize him for that move. The other moves were terrible with the Hamonic trade being an organization crippling move in regards to the prospect base made in hopes of accelerating the progress of the team.
I think what you can question there is moving a 2nd for a 31 year old that had 1 year left on his deal and who you didn't resign.
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Exactly so - my point is that maybe he used it once or twice early but it's this site that pretends it's some sort of a thing.
No, he really does drop the word "process" multiple times in every interview I've heard.

Now as Vinny01 noted, the complete phrase "Trust the process" is more a Sam Hinkie thing.

But Tre definitely has process to talk about.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/f...s-hiring-ward/

Literally drops "process" in the first 30 seconds, and this is from just a year ago.
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Yeah I don't think Treliving is at all similar to the previous regime. I personally think he's more cut out to be an assistant GM as he seems like a tireless worker which is what a GM would want from his assistant doing a lot of legwork, contract negotiations, etc.
Yeah, I think he ends up with another job with an NHL if he wants and the Flames can him. Probably not another GM job but something higher up.

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Old 05-11-2021, 03:20 PM   #225
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No identity, no chemistry, no goal scorers, no cap space, not enough skill, too slow, too many holes and etc. etc. There's a lot of things that went wrong with this team and it's hard to pinpoint just one. What a waste of a season and a waste of some good contract years. Has to be one of the most disappointing Flames seasons in more than a decade. Maybe the 2019 finish was the worst, but from start to finish, no season was quite as disappointing and enraging as this one.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:38 PM   #226
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In hindsight, that 2015 miracle season was probably not the best for the team, but it sure was fun. Bennett goes to the AHL rather than burning a year on his contract, and gets the pro minutes he needed early in his career. GM probably also pumps the brakes to give his team another year to develop before doing some of those moves (Hamonic for sure, but I could see them still going after Hamilton).
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No, he really does drop the word "process" multiple times in every interview I've heard.

Now as Vinny01 noted, the complete phrase "Trust the process" is more a Sam Hinkie thing.

But Tre definitely has process to talk about.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/f...s-hiring-ward/

Literally drops "process" in the first 30 seconds, and this is from just a year ago.
Appreciated. However this is exactly the example (the "process" of hiring a coach) which I said I figured he probably did use, not "the process" of building a Cup winner.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:38 PM   #228
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Treliving is smart enough to know that his multiple references to the process are now used in a satirical fashion

Deservedly so. It has been used to justify managerial moves through a patient lens. But the results aren’t there.

I have heard it many times but am not going to go through several interviews to find it

Maybe search on CP in some GTs for intermission hits he did where people called it out
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In hindsight, that 2015 miracle season was probably not the best for the team, but it sure was fun. Bennett goes to the AHL rather than burning a year on his contract, and gets the pro minutes he needed early in his career. GM probably also pumps the brakes to give his team another year to develop before doing some of those moves (Hamonic for sure, but I could see them still going after Hamilton).
Pretty sure Bennett only could play junior the next year but he wouldn’t have been gifted a spot like he was after making it during the playoffs.

I have compared 2015 to the Baertschi emergency call-up in 2012. It went so perfectly that it set unattainable expectations moving forward.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:43 PM   #230
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What should be the gameplan: Rest everyone. Dress AHLers. Put a pylon in goal, and then "try to win." Draft as high as we can.
What will be the gameplan: Rest no one. Dress the full lineup. Play each game like it's Game 7 of the finals. Screw the draft.
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Treliving is smart enough to know that his multiple references to the process are now used in a satirical fashion

Deservedly so. It has been used to justify managerial moves through a patient lens. But the results aren’t there.

I have heard it many times but am not going to go through several interviews to find it

Maybe search on CP in some GTs for intermission hits he did where people called it out
Well, there's enough smoke where I think I must be incorrect. Not a big deal. On the Ward one, he probably said it because he had no traditional hiring process for Peters.
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Old 05-11-2021, 03:50 PM   #232
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Well, there's enough smoke where I think I must be incorrect. Not a big deal. On the Ward one, he probably said it because he had no traditional hiring process for Peters.

I will agree with you that he probably hasn’t specifically referred to the process of building a Stanley Cup winner. If you are looking for that, I doubt you find it. Building a contending team, maybe. Building a team, more likely.

I think it’s been a word he has used many times in dealing with other things like draft preparation, evaluating the FA market, filling out the roster in a given season etc.

It also seems like a good way to justify a decision like Ward that people are questioning. I am sure his bosses and everyone else appreciate hearing that there was rigour, and that there was good reasoning behind the move.

Just sucks when the team flops and the decision doesn’t look so hot
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About a week ago, I thought I saw a tweet from one of the media (Steinberg? Haynes?) that follows the Flames that said after Gawdin they only had one call-up remaining.

If true, wouldn't that impact the number of youngsters they can put into the line up for remaining games?

Or did I remember that wrong?
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Old 05-11-2021, 04:45 PM   #235
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About a week ago, I thought I saw a tweet from one of the media (Steinberg? Haynes?) that follows the Flames that said after Gawdin they only had one call-up remaining.

If true, wouldn't that impact the number of youngsters they can put into the line up for remaining games?

Or did I remember that wrong?
That only applies with call ups if you want to just send a guy down and call somebody up.

If you actually need to shut guys down for the season due to injury you can have as many callups as you'd like.
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The hot stove on the Fan 960 is so tiresome. Wills is unlistenable (if that’s a word). Would not stop with the what if’s. What if they’d taken the season series with the Sens, gone 4-5 instead of 1-8 in that streak and had better performances from their top players.

Total babble garbage.
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What should be the gameplan: Rest everyone. Dress AHLers. Put a pylon in goal, and then "try to win." Draft as high as we can.
What will be the gameplan: Rest no one. Dress the full lineup. Play each game like it's Game 7 of the finals. Screw the draft.
Hey, don't want a loser attitude to settle into this club... I mean, look how much winning they have been doing the past 7 years, LOL
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Old 05-11-2021, 04:55 PM   #238
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What should be the gameplan: Rest everyone. Dress AHLers. Put a pylon in goal, and then "try to win." Draft as high as we can.
What will be the gameplan: Rest no one. Dress the full lineup. Play each game like it's Game 7 of the finals. Screw the draft.
Personally I would love to see the following lineup the final 4 games:

Dube-Monahan-Phillips
Mangiapane-Backlund-Nordstrom
Pettersen-Ruzicka-Ryan
Lucic-Gawdin-Ritchie

Valimaki-Andersson
Nesterov-Kylington
Mackey-Stone

Zagidulin
Dominique

No point in playing those other 6 guys in all seriousness. No fans in the stands to try and create entertaining hockey for, they have nothing left to prove or gain this season and we want to take a look at some of the young blood.
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No, he really does drop the word "process" multiple times in every interview I've heard.

Now as Vinny01 noted, the complete phrase "Trust the process" is more a Sam Hinkie thing.

But Tre definitely has process to talk about.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/f...s-hiring-ward/

Literally drops "process" in the first 30 seconds, and this is from just a year ago.
Thanks for going through the process of finding that video and through the process of linking it in a post for us to put some time into the process of listening to the multiple times he said process in that short clip.
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The hot stove on the Fan 960 is so tiresome. Wills is unlistenable (if that’s a word). Would not stop with the what if’s. What if they’d taken the season series with the Sens, gone 4-5 instead of 1-8 in that streak and had better performances from their top players.

Total babble garbage.
Wills is an unbelievably painful interview to listen to. I think he’s a decent PBP guy but I genuinely question how much he actually knows about the game of hockey.
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