11-25-2019, 09:50 PM
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#221
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Agreed and it drives me nuts when some dimwit points to its use in music as an excuse.
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It's really frustrating. Next time that comes up, ask that person to play you a song where Eminem uses it.
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11-25-2019, 09:51 PM
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#222
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Enemy territory
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If Peters is gone then who would be our new coach?
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11-25-2019, 09:51 PM
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#223
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by ToraToraTora
I used to do employment law, and I'd say probably no.
Now for the more lawyery response. It all depends. Was it a question asked during the interview? Did it happen more than once? What was the full context?
It's likely that if this was a private business, with no pr side to it, that it wouldn't amount to a cause termination. It would lead to disciplinary measures, but likely would not be cause.
The real question is if this was misconduct that has caused irreparable harm to the employment relationship. It just might have because of the profile of the job.
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The NHL contracts are pretty different stuff. They are not typical employment law. It’s more like a personal services contract, like for an actor, or the engagement of a high level contractor. The coaches contracts aren’t as standard as a player contract but they are pretty similar.
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11-25-2019, 09:52 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
It's really frustrating. Next time that comes up, ask that person to play you a song where Eminem uses it.
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I thought the same thing, though, there's accusations of him using it in some videos out there.....
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11-25-2019, 09:52 PM
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#225
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame
You'd think after the Juicy Smolette case people would be a little more hesitant to jump on the outrage bandwagon based on single source accusations.
Lets let them investigate before calling for scalps and pounds of flesh.
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Please, provide me an example of people saying he should be thrown out on his ear based on that tweet. I think everyone is saying it’s alarming and if it’s founded, he needs to be fired.
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11-25-2019, 09:52 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlameX
If Peters is gone then who would be our new coach?
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Someone who might leave Monahan and Tkachuk together for more than three minutes?
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11-25-2019, 09:52 PM
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#227
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I thought the same thing, though, there's accusations of him using it in some videos out there.....
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He called an Ex girlfriend that in an old tape and has owned it. (Not like this mathers).
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11-25-2019, 09:53 PM
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#228
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I thought the same thing, though, there's accusations of him using it in some videos out there.....
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I actually googled if he (Eminem) had used it in any tracks before I wrote this, and while there are reports of him using the word on a diss track from back before he was famous, it does not appear he's ever used it on a studio release, so I think the point still stands.
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11-25-2019, 09:55 PM
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#229
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by FlameX
If Peters is gone then who would be our new coach?
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Craig MacTavish is available.
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11-25-2019, 09:55 PM
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#230
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Scoring Winger
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I feel we should call this movement against coaches "Me 2" in honor of the number Commodore wore with the Flames
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11-25-2019, 09:55 PM
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#231
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Enemy territory
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
I wonder how akward this all must be for kylington in the dressing room....
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My thoughts exactly. Was too scared to point that out during this situation lol.
The players all together probably feel uncomfortable so if the rumors are true then that puts them in an awkward position, especially with the teams problems as of now.
Last edited by FlameX; 11-25-2019 at 09:57 PM.
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11-25-2019, 09:56 PM
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#232
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
The NHL contracts are pretty different stuff. They are not typical employment law. It’s more like a personal services contract, like for an actor, or the engagement of a high level contractor. The coaches contracts aren’t as standard as a player contract but they are pretty similar.
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Yeh, I figured so. There's so many things in the NHL staff community that fly in the face of anything I've ever seen that are normal.
I'd like to see one.
Also, he would still probably be able to collect his Employment Standards one week severance.
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11-25-2019, 09:57 PM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
He called an Ex girlfriend that in an old tape and has owned it. (Not like this mathers).
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I see what you did there.
He has admitted he said it in the past but got educated and refrained thereafter.
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11-25-2019, 09:57 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
The NHL contracts are pretty different stuff. They are not typical employment law. It’s more like a personal services contract, like for an actor, or the engagement of a high level contractor. The coaches contracts aren’t as standard as a player contract but they are pretty similar.
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So in other words, they follow a different set of rules, (laws) than "typical employment"?
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11-25-2019, 09:59 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Craig MacTavish is available.
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What are you drinking tonight Reg? I think you need to cut back immediately!
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11-25-2019, 10:02 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Craig MacTavish is available.
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Don't even joke about stuff like that.
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11-25-2019, 10:03 PM
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#237
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
What are you drinking tonight Reg? I think you need to cut back immediately!
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11-25-2019, 10:03 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Uh oh. Brad said "You people"
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11-25-2019, 10:04 PM
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#239
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Story breaks about an alleged racial slur from the current head coach who was a Babcock protégé after Babcock stories have been flying about what a POS he was.
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So Peters had nothing to do with Babcock until 2010-11 and somehow Aliu lumps them in together before they worked in the league? I fail to see how he is a Babcock disciple if he said this before he worked with him.
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11-25-2019, 10:04 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DazzlinDino
So in other words, they follow a different set of rules, (laws) than "typical employment"?
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Depends on what you mean by that. The ESC has a ton of exemptions and you can apply for others. For example, associates at a law firm are not subject to the Code. But moreover, it’s likely that the contract provides for greater protections than an open ended employment agreement anyway. Most of these private contracts spell out how much notice you get, what the early termination payment will be, breaches, non-disclosure, non-competition, etc.
Coaching staff may not be employees at all - they may be independent contractors.
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