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PepsiFree · 10-09-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

What fan of a sports team isn't upset when they lose? It's literally the definition of a fan. If you don't care if they lose I think you've already moved on from being a fan or are heading there at least.

I would disagree with that, it just feels like getting into Oiler-esque “tiering” of fandom. You can be a passionate hockey fan right into every moment of the game, watch every game you can, talk endlessly about the team, players, the sport, etc, and still not really GAF about a loss.

The only losses that are really disappointing are the ones that end a season, because that means cheering for your team is done until the draft.

If you want to defend getting upset by a loss, sure. But this is not a “no true fan” situation.

Resolute 14 · 10-09-2019, 11:33 AM

I love the narrative that the Flames "nose-dived" after the All-Star Break. They had a four game losing streak coming out of that long break, which is irritating. Then finished 9-5. That, incidentally is a 105 point pace. The team finished with 107.

Igottago · 10-09-2019, 11:36 AM

Didn't see the game last night, but disappointed to hear Bennett didn't make the most of his top 6 time. I really feel like this has to be Bennett's best year as a pro. Not only for his own career but also for the Flames to really be a team that can go deep in the playoffs. An effective Bennett would go a long way for the depth of the team. But if he doesn't figure it out this year, there's really no point holding out any hope that he is anything more than a mediocre 3rd/4th line player, certainly not one the team needs to include in its vision for ultimate success.

TheIronMaiden · 10-09-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

Didn't see the game last night, but disappointed to hear Bennett didn't make the most of his top 6 time. I really feel like this has to be Bennett's best year as a pro. Not only for his own career but also for the Flames to really be a team that can go deep in the playoffs. An effective Bennett would go a long way for the depth of the team. But if he doesn't figure it out this year, there's really no point holding out any hope that he is anything more than a mediocre 3rd/4th line player, certainly not one the team needs to include in its vision for ultimate success.

What was frustrating is that Bennett clearly has the skill. The problem was he held onto the puck for too long, and tried to force low percentage plays. Bennett struggles to keep things simple.

Always Earned Never Given · 10-09-2019, 12:15 PM

I hope that from here till january 3rd we get entertaining hockey from the Flames but somehow are 31st in the league so that we can witness deja vu all over again.

Conclusion: peak at the right time!

Flash Walken · 10-09-2019, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I would disagree with that, it just feels like getting into Oiler-esque “tiering” of fandom. You can be a passionate hockey fan right into every moment of the game, watch every game you can, talk endlessly about the team, players, the sport, etc, and still not really GAF about a loss.

The only losses that are really disappointing are the ones that end a season, because that means cheering for your team is done until the draft.

If you want to defend getting upset by a loss, sure. But this is not a “no true fan” situation.

eh, not the first time he's confused me of not being a fan.

GioforPM · 10-09-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I would disagree with that, it just feels like getting into Oiler-esque “tiering” of fandom. You can be a passionate hockey fan right into every moment of the game, watch every game you can, talk endlessly about the team, players, the sport, etc, and still not really GAF about a loss.

The only losses that are really disappointing are the ones that end a season, because that means cheering for your team is done until the draft.

If you want to defend getting upset by a loss, sure. But this is not a “no true fan” situation.

I think it depends on what people mean by being upset. Do I dislike it, gripe about it, chew it over some? Sure. Do I let it affect me in some deeper way - nah.

Bonded · 10-09-2019, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I love the narrative that the Flames "nose-dived" after the All-Star Break. They had a four game losing streak coming out of that long break, which is irritating. Then finished 9-5. That, incidentally is a 105 point pace. The team finished with 107.

I think it is more the first line that nose-dived is the story

TheScorpion · 10-09-2019, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

Sorry for the delay folks ... coaching two midget teams this winter so there will be a lot of late ones!

Unrelated, but it warms my heart to hear you're so active in the hockey community so soon after fighting off cancer. I think I can speak for everyone on this site when I say, kudos

Bingo · 10-09-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

eh, not the first time he's confused me of not being a fan.

Honestly wasn't my intent this time at least

I just think being upset when a team loses (within reason) is pretty much what a sports fan is. Certainly not judging you nor those that handle it differently.

Strange Brew · 10-09-2019, 07:08 PM

Give me more fans that get upset after a loss. Give me more guys like Doughty who gives the home team fans the business after scoring a goal in OT.

I'm pretty sure we're allowed to get emotionally invested in our favorite team's success or failure. I was a grown man with a newborn sorn when the Flames couldn't close the deal in 2004 and it still hung around with me for a long time. I'd love for the Flames to make me that invested again and if you feel something like that way now, then that is something to be celebrated IMO.

Rando · 10-09-2019, 07:23 PM

Pretty sure 99% of Calgarypuck flips their collective lids when the Flames lose, so we're good on that front. If you want upset fans after a loss being a Flames fandom was the perfect choice. My comment was to one person who said it effected his happiness. Let's not over-blow things. Losing game seven of the cup finals in 2004 is different than game three of the regular season of another year. Comment was made in support, not criticism. Baffling the response it has gotten by a few. Pretty sure no one was telling any other posters what they're "allowed" to do in celebration.

Drew Doughty gave the home team the business because the home fans were giving him the business all game. Turnabout is fair play and kind of funny but telling a bunch of people to "suck my d*ck* multiple times in celebration shows what an overgrown man-child he is.

N-E-B · 10-09-2019, 07:53 PM

The emotional highs and lows, for me, are the fun part. I couldn’t imagine not being upset after a loss.

Titan · 10-09-2019, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

The high stick in the offensive zone leading to a goal is challengeable now, remember.

Obviously the Kings didn't think either touch was a high stick as both are reviewable now.

Sorry if someone touched on this but rule 38 says what is reviewable. A high stick infraction, above the shoulders and to his own team or himself, is not reviewable. A high stick resulting in a goal is reviewable. MT hit the puck down with an arguably high stick but directed it into the net with a clear legal touch, below the crossbar, thus no review allowed.

AC · 10-09-2019, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Titan

Sorry if someone touched on this but rule 38 says what is reviewable. A high stick infraction, above the shoulders and to his own team or himself, is not reviewable. A high stick resulting in a goal is reviewable. MT hit the puck down with an arguably high stick but directed it into the net with a clear legal touch, below the crossbar, thus no review allowed.

Nope, not anymore.

Here are the new rules for this season:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...20-nhl-season/

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COACH’S CHALLENGE

An addition to the coach’s challenge rule this season — along with goalie interference and offside — is the ability to ask for a review of a play in the offensive zone that led to a goal, but should have been whistled dead. These scenarios include pucks that hit the protective netting above the glass, a hand pass to a teammate or a puck that was high-sticked.

Itse · 10-10-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AC

Nope, not anymore.

Here are the new rules for this season:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...20-nhl-season/

Yay, more slow motion replays.

AC · 10-10-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

Yay, more slow motion replays.

In theory. Remember the penalties for unsuccessful challenges are more severe. Obviously the borderline plays are less likely to be challenged as a result, as evidenced by LA not challenging the Tkachuk tying goal.

The new rules are not a surprise after SJ won a Game 7 off a blown 5 minute major call and then a 3rd Round OT off a blown hand pass. Didn't Columbus also score a goal vs Boston after the puck hit the netting?

If they can curtail the weak borderline calls while ensuring some plays get reviewed that should (missed hand passes, highsticks, pucks in the netting), I'm all for it.