[Signing] Leafs sign Tavares (7 yrs, $11mil AAV) - Page 12 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

The Cobra · 07-01-2018, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SebC

They drove up the price on a player we were never going to get. Good work, Sharks!

It doesn't look like they did, since Taveras signed for less than most predicted.

I would bet that the Maple Leafs offered him $11M out of the gate, and never waivered.

Taveras was never about the most money as long as he got to some reasonable (for him) threshold.

I'd be surprised if the Leafs ever really raised their offer if they were told that the Sharks were offering above $13M.

saXon · 07-01-2018, 02:43 PM

We'll never hear the end of it.

dino7c · 07-01-2018, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Atodaso

Kadri maybe? Either way they are set for awhile. Look at San Jose. Dubas seems like a very intelligent pro-active GM.

Why? Because of geography? Dubas offered a guy who wanted to play in TO market rate.

They have other young talent because they sucked

SebC · 07-01-2018, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Corral

What does seem apparent is that the landscape in the NHL has shifted with these new monster contracts for top players. Teams like Calgary could pay these dollars, but players who can earn $10 mil plus will choose to play elsewhere to enjoy their money. The so-called 'small market' syndrome is back, where teams like Calgary have to put it all together and win with their star players before they qualify for UFA status (e.g. the current Gaudreau and Monahan deals). But this time, the small market problem won't be solved with a salary cap.

This has been the landscape in the NBA for years.

dissentowner · 07-01-2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root

lol

Yup, as ridiculous as FDW fly by post. At the time I said that you know who else was saying that? Pretty much every media guy including Friedman. Then the landscape changed and I predicted that Tavares would be a Leaf, I even predicted the term and salary right but he won't point that out because it does not fit the fly by post agenda. He did get a thanks though from GoJetsGo so he has that going for him though.

chemgear · 07-01-2018, 03:11 PM

God, the bitter NY fans are hilarious.

dino7c · 07-01-2018, 03:14 PM

JT is a unique situation...it's not gonna be the norm. Islanders have been an absolute mess. They are playing home games in multiple rinks next season FFS.

chemgear · 07-01-2018, 03:16 PM

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browna · 07-01-2018, 03:51 PM

Flames play there the game before Tavares returns in late Feb.

Vinny01 · 07-01-2018, 05:16 PM

I am very envious of the Leafs.

The Yen Man · 07-01-2018, 05:23 PM

Lol so many Leaf fans already planning the parade. Talk about putting th cart before the horse. Lets see them actually win a playoff round first.

They are already salivating about the offense, which I will readily admit is deep. But there are only so many goals to go around. JT being there probably means guys like Kadri and Marleau's production are going to drop.

And really, with that atrocious defence, it's going to be tougher than they think. Last I checked, it wasn't lack of offense that did then in last year, it was their crappy defence.

codynw · 07-01-2018, 05:44 PM

"AFTER ALL THIS FRANCHISE HAS DONE FOR YOU"

What have they done for him? Waste half of his career?

iloveicedhockey · 07-01-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by codynw

"AFTER ALL THIS FRANCHISE HAS DONE FOR YOU"

What have they done for him? Waste half of his career?

On a sweetheart deal no less.

Jay Random · 07-01-2018, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by codynw

"AFTER ALL THIS FRANCHISE HAS DONE FOR YOU"

What have they done for him? Waste half of his career?

Hey, they not only wasted half his career, they made their backup goalie the GM so they could be absolutely sure it was wasted!

dino7c · 07-01-2018, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Lol so many Leaf fans already planning the parade. Talk about putting th cart before the horse. Lets see them actually win a playoff round first.

They are already salivating about the offense, which I will readily admit is deep. But there are only so many goals to go around. JT being there probably means guys like Kadri and Marleau's production are going to drop.

And really, with that atrocious defence, it's going to be tougher than they think. Last I checked, it wasn't lack of offense that did then in last year, it was their crappy defence.

JVR too...now JT is better but JVR was pretty solid for the Leafs. Oh well, it will be fun cheering for them to fail. Based on what I hear it's Stanley cup/presidents throphy or bust. GL

mikephoen · 07-01-2018, 06:28 PM

The Leafs are definitely going to be interesting to follow for the next while. This year is probably their best chance to win the cup, as Marner and Mathews are still on entry level contacts. If I was them I'd be trading Nylander for the best defenceman they can get right now, and also probably dumping as many upcoming picks as needed to further fill out the defence and add depth.

That Horton cap hit is ugly now too. Sure its LTIR, but IR dollars aren't as useful as actual cap space. Package some picks with that and move it to a rebuilding team for anything useful and they're in good shape this year to make a run, with space at the deadline to add whatever they feel they're missing.

White Out 403 · 07-01-2018, 07:15 PM

gotta respect JT for signing yet another sweetheart contract. he wants to win. got to admire that. its easy to make fun of teams who overspend for FA... but this is a great team friendly deal and hes a high quality star. jelly a little bit.

FireGilbert · 07-01-2018, 07:49 PM

Wow! This has the be the first time the Leafs have attracted a local superstar in the prime of their career. I'm glad I'm not in Canada right now having to listen to Toronto media going off. They are now a legitimate cup contender but will be in a cap crunch and need to trade at least one of their young forwards.

simmer2 · 07-01-2018, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by White Out 403

gotta respect JT for signing yet another sweetheart contract. he wants to win. got to admire that. its easy to make fun of teams who overspend for FA... but this is a great team friendly deal and hes a high quality star. jelly a little bit.

11M per year for 7 years is a sweetheart contract?

Erick Estrada · 07-01-2018, 07:52 PM

I'm not sure this works out at the end of the day as I think it's going to cause problems with Matthews who already isn't a fan of the head coach. If Matthews isn't happy about being on the 2nd powerplay unit I can't imagine he's going to be thrilled about being the 2nd line centre which he will be as Babckock will ride Tavares. Everyone will say the right things going into training camp but I think it's a story to watch.