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Old 05-15-2018, 11:46 AM   #221
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Why? Are you black and planning your next Halloween costume or something?
I was going to go as a dinosaur but can't decide what colour to make the feathers.
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Are afro wigs racist? They are effectively the same thing -- an exaggerated trait of a specific race. Why differentiate those from skin paint?
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Are afro wigs racist? They are effectively the same thing -- an exaggerated trait of a specific race. Why differentiate those from skin paint?
You don't need to be black to have hair this beautiful.

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You don't need to be black to have hair this beautiful.
Not everyone agrees with you. Costumes that are perceived as racist and so-called cultural appropriation is so massively subjective, that regardless of what you do, you're bound to piss someone off.

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People are accusing a popular beauty blogger of cultural appropriation after she wore an afro as part of her Halloween costume
I think staying away from the obvious (black-face) is a good idea. But regardless of whether you think that XYZ is harmless and not racist, there's bound to be someone who thinks that it is. So I get the frustration some people have where this issue is concerned. In some cases, many think that the accusations of cultural appropriation & racism are very over the top...and in some of those cases I agree.
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Who is this, the gatekeeper of racism?

Reverse racism doesn't exist, that much is true. Racism is racism.

Not sure the point of posting that video to be honest.
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Who is this, the gatekeeper of racism?

Reverse racism doesn't exist, that much is true. Racism is racism.

Not sure the point of posting that video to be honest.
Watch it again and maybe you'll get the point.
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Watch it again and maybe you'll get the point.
Pretty sure you are going to have to explain it because all I see is a comedian making a nonsensical point (not that I have any issue with white people jokes in the first place).
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Pretty sure you are going to have to explain it because all I see is a comedian making a nonsensical point (not that I have any issue with white people jokes in the first place).
http://www.thegloss.com/beauty/nick-...teface-photos/

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When you remove imperialism, colonialism, slavery, segregation, privilege, and institutionalized inequality from the equation, then yes, it looks like there’s a double standard, but remind me of a time when white people–as a whole–were subjected to centuries upon centuries of legally permissible, socially accepted racism.
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Feel free to chime in with something useful then.

Never change, minorities.
What would you like me to do?

For many people here, it's not about reducing prejudice, it's about showing everybody else how awesome they are, and how many idiots there are out there. Yippee.
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It’s a racist term, no matter how you use it. Full stop.

If a professor is using it, he’s talking about it as a racist term. It doesn’t mean their usage of it is necessarily offensive or wrong just to say, but yeah, it’s still a racist term.
What's your take on the word "monkey"? Is it always racist when referred to a human?

You keep claiming you're progressive or something, why do you keep using the outdated word "racist"? Do you believe races are a real thing?
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So something is only racist with centuries upon centuries of inequality?

I don't think many people dispute that racism exists, is a problem and should have a discussion to move forward on, I just hesitate to say that certain groups of people are exempt from being racist or being victims of racism...you know because that sounds somewhat racist itself.

Racism is racism. All ways. All directions.

I would definitely agree that one problem is much much less of an issue, but it seems silly to ignore it completely, or worse, contend it isn't even possible.

Just me though.
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Is it blackface? Yes. (I understand people are caught up on the origins of blackface to argue this point, but this is blackface)
Is blackface racist? Yes.

Racism isn’t always the act of demeaning, implying superiority, or stereotyping. Racism can also be an act that serves as reference. As GGG said, do you think it’s ok to use the n-word amongst your white friends as a term of endearment? No? Then why is putting dark makeup on to appear black ok?

There’s nothing ironic about it, using nuance is key, and your stance of “here’s what racism is, nothing else is racist but this” is what lacks nuance.

Again, you and anyone else who doesn’t think this was racist can feel free to explain why you don’t use the n-word amongst your white friends as a term of endearment. This isn’t just about the intent of an action. If you think the racism deeply rooted in our, and many other cultures, is distinguishable just by “they’re trying to be mean” then you’ve got learning to do.
When you hang around all your boring upper-middle class white male friends, how on earth can you make any judgement at all about prejudice?

Fun fact: "Trying to be mean" is fact what they're trying to do. Believe me, I know. No one tries to be "accidentally racist".
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:45 PM   #233
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So something is only racist with centuries upon centuries of inequality?

I don't think many people dispute that racism exists, is a problem and should have a discussion to move forward on, I just hesitate to say that certain groups of people are exempt from being racist or being victims of racism...you know because that sounds somewhat racist itself.

Racism is racism. All ways. All directions.

I would definitely agree that one problem is much much less of an issue, but it seems silly to ignore it completely, or worse, contend it isn't even possible.

Just me though.
Maybe there needs to be a small r racism and a capital R racism so people can distinguish between individual acts of intolerance/prejudice between people of all backgrounds and the more recent sociological view of Racism.

What is Racism
Defining "RACISM": The Power Factor



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occurs when an expression of Racial Prejudice emerges from a more powerful/privileged location in the hierarchy, and is directed at an individual/group in a less powerful/privileged location;
occurs where the target of the prejudice has less power than the perpetrator;
is top-down;
is an exercise of Power;
refers not only to social attitudes towards non-dominant ethnic and racial groups but also to social structures and actions which oppress, exclude, limit and discriminate against such individuals and groups. Such social attitudes originate in and rationalize discriminatory treatment;
can be seen in discriminatory laws, residential segregation, poor health care, inferior education, unequal economic opportunity and the exclusion and distortion of the perspectives of non-dominant Canadians in cultural institutions. (Thomas, 1987);
refers to “a system in which one group of people exercises power over another on the basis of skin colour; an implicit or explicit set of beliefs, erroneous assumptions, and actions based on an ideology of the inherent superiority of one racial group over another, and evident in organizational or institutional structures and programs as well as in individual thought or behaviour patterns (Henry & Tator, 2006, p. 352).
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The hidden racism of school discipline, in 7 charts

https://www.vox.com/2015/10/31/96465...ne-race-charts
That was a heartbreaking article to read. Jeez.
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I would strongly encourage everyone here to read the ridiculousness contained within this URL. Also, this isn't a scholarly source or group, despite the fact that it is on the domain of the UofC.

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I love how you try to sneak this in the backdoor as if it is some sort of mainstream view. I guess we can keep linking compact.org or w/e and fringe websites to continue to support some of these extremist views you hold.

I expected better of you Pepsi. I'd encourage you to use some better judgment and not thank posts like these.
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That site is gold. I especially like this:

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Despite a lot of discourses to the contrary-- we live in a society that is structured as a hierarchy.
Every society that has ever existed has hierarchies. Nobody with a brain claims otherwise.

The section on liberal racism is also edifying.

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What has become known as the ‘cult of individualism' has constructed people in the West so they find it very difficult to understand anything outside their own experience... Individualism fosters a belief that everybody is free to choose, that their destiny is within their own control and that choice, determination, ‘pulling oneself up by one's boot straps', are all individually determined and ultimately achievable despite social, economic, racial and cultural circumstances.
Credit where credit is due, these folks don't even pretend to have liberal values.

I'll second CaramonLS's encouragement to read the dogma on that site. It's the structuralism preached by the progressive left distilled down to its pure form. If you're a liberal who's dismayed at the increasingly illiberal behaviour of the left, you gotta read this stuff to understand the Word inspiring the Deeds.
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That site is gold. I especially like this:



Every society that has ever existed has hierarchies. Nobody with a brain claims otherwise.

The section on liberal racism is also edifying.



Credit where credit is due, these folks don't even pretend to have liberal values.

I'll second CaramonLS's encouragement to read the dogma on that site. It's the structuralism preached by the progressive left distilled down to its pure form. If you're a liberal who's dismayed at the increasingly illiberal behaviour of the left, you gotta read this stuff to understand the Word inspiring the Deeds.
Lol and apparently I'm the evangelical.

This is coming from the type of guy who will have you believe that the majority University campuses across North America have turned into some sort of radical left wing brainwashing factories.

This stuff isn't that far out in you're not in complete denial about the reality of racism being a systemic problem in society.

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An an interview from a so called"radical extremist"

American Racism in the ‘White Frame’

This week’s conversation is with Joe Feagin, a sociologist, and a leading researcher of racism in the United States for more than 40 years. He teaches at Texas A & M University and is the author of more than 60 books, including the forthcoming “How Blacks Built America: Labor, Culture, Freedom, and Democracy.”

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To understand well the realities of American racism, one must adopt an analytical perspective focused on the what, why and who of the systemic white racism that is central and foundational to this society. Most mainstream social scientists dealing with racism issues have relied heavily on inadequate analytical concepts like prejudice, bias, stereotyping and intolerance. Such concepts are often useful, but were long ago crafted by white social scientists focusing on individual racial and ethnic issues, not on society’s systemic racism. To fully understand racism in the United States, one has to go to the centuries-old counter-system tradition of African-American analysts and other analysts of color who have done the most sustained and penetrating analyses of institutional and systemic racism.
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Most whites think racial inequalities reflect differences they see as real — superior work ethic, greater intelligence, or other meritorious abilities of whites. Social science research is clear that white-black inequalities today are substantially the result of a majority of whites socially inheriting unjust enrichments (money, land, home equities, social capital, etc.) from numerous previous white generations — the majority of whom benefited from the racialized slavery system and/or the de jure (Jim Crow) and de facto overt racial oppression that followed slavery for nearly a century, indeed until the late 1960s.
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I love how you try to sneak this in the backdoor as if it is some sort of mainstream view. I guess we can keep linking compact.org or w/e and fringe websites to continue to support some of these extremist views you hold.

I expected better of you Pepsi. I'd encourage you to use some better judgment and not thank posts like these.
The "radical extremists" ladies and gentlemen...

Who We Are:

The CARED Collective, (Calgary Anti-Racism Education) established in January 2009, consists of six women from the anti-racism community in Calgary. Each member brought her own knowledge of racism and anti-racism and a commitment to anti-racism activism. The committee met regularly, with small working group meetings held more frequently with members assuming a variety of roles. Whether we acted as advisors, creators, editors, visionaries or providers of food and support, we all contributed to the creation of this online anti-racism resource. We owe special thanks to others who were very much involved in the process, especially Linda Kongnetiman and the University of Calgary Native Centre, as well as to those who contributed their expertise to this resource.

Our tree and root image conveys both our regionality (Southern Alberta), as well as the many associations behind our title, STAND. A stand of trees, a common sight in our province, presents both a sense of community and individuality, a sense of purpose and rootedness; most of all, "stand" is one of the root words in the most important term in anti-racism work: understanding.

The following are the members of the CARED group.

C. Chagnon-Greyeyes
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