04-21-2017, 12:17 PM
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#221
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
It seems likely that if this does go to court, that things like what dino7c posted will be considered by the defence.
Henderson, who was about to retire, suffered all these injuries, was able to finish the game, laughed it off with Wideman 5 minutes after, and now wants $10 million?
Now I'm not saying these things don't mean Henderson isn't entitled to some sort of compensation. But this is a message board where we discuss things.
Are you choosing to be offended? Is somebody forcing you to post?
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FWIW, there is absolutely no way I'm taking dino7c's claim that they were laughing it off as fact on his say so. Particularly given he's essentially accusing Henderson of fraud. We'd need a few more people to collaborate that.
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04-21-2017, 12:20 PM
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#222
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
FWIW, there is absolutely no way I'm taking dino7c's claim that they were laughing it off as fact. Particularly given he's essentially accusing Henderson of fraud. We'd need a few more people to collaborate that.
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I could be wrong, but I thought there were some tweets essentially saying what dino7c said as well.
And I don't think that's really accusing him of fraud. I think it is possible that Henderson never saw the hit until after the game, or he started feeling pain later.
We do know however that Wideman apologized during the next stoppage.
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04-21-2017, 12:32 PM
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#224
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Franchise Player
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not sure what was caught on TV...people asked me to clarify so described what I saw with my own eyes. Wish I had pvr'd the game honestly.
Beyond that make your own call...to me it seems awfully suspicious (not impossible) that he was that badly injured
He is free to make any claim he wants, I am free to have serious doubts
Dear lord, quoting Francis
https://twitter.com/EricFrancis/stat...75151271989249
Apologized at first TV timeout...the rest you will have to take my word, or not...
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Last edited by dino7c; 04-21-2017 at 12:36 PM.
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04-21-2017, 12:48 PM
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#225
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
I'm just sitting here, bowled over with fremdschämen.
Ya'll are gross.
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Pretty impressive typing fremdschämen and ya'll back-to-back.
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04-21-2017, 01:21 PM
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#226
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
not sure what was caught on TV...people asked me to clarify so described what I saw with my own eyes. Wish I had pvr'd the game honestly.
Beyond that make your own call...to me it seems awfully suspicious (not impossible) that he was that badly injured
He is free to make any claim he wants, I am free to have serious doubts
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Head injuries can be complicated. They are not like breaking a leg where it's immediate and noticeable. Read up about all the NHL players that have horrible complications from concussions they probably finished a lot of their games too.
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04-21-2017, 02:00 PM
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#227
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I could be wrong, but I thought there were some tweets essentially saying what dino7c said as well.
And I don't think that's really accusing him of fraud. I think it is possible that Henderson never saw the hit until after the game, or he started feeling pain later.
We do know however that Wideman apologized during the next stoppage.
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I disagree. I think both dino7c and Clarkey have been pretty unambiguous in arguing they think Henderson's suit is fraudulent.
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04-21-2017, 02:09 PM
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#228
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Retired
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Having filed claims for personal injury before, including on behalf of NHL players, I find the loss of income claim scandalous.
Sure you can always adjust down and not always up, but a claim for past and future loss of income at $10 million does not even remotely reflect reality. I'm going to get a copy of the claim and read it, but the amount of the claim is absurd on its face. He's almost 50 years old.
Filing claims asking for patently absurd amounts is not good legal practice.
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04-21-2017, 02:09 PM
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#229
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
I disagree. I think both dino7c and Clarkey have been pretty unambiguous in arguing they think Henderson's suit is fraudulent.
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again I was asked so I told what happened...him apologizing at the very next TV timeout has been confirmed. If you think I am lying about them laughing that's fine...I have nothing to gain or lose
The guy had about a month left as an NHL official...personally I don't think he is entitled to millions in lost wages
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04-21-2017, 02:55 PM
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#230
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#1 Goaltender
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Not surprised to hear Francis with Rob Kerr yesterday calling us "Internet tough guys" because everyone is not 100% on Henderson's side in this. Don't you have to be a tough guy to start chiding people for being "internet tough guys". In a fight between Francis and a wet noodle I'm taking the wet noodle every time.
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04-21-2017, 03:29 PM
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#231
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Delgar
Having filed claims for personal injury before, including on behalf of NHL players, I find the loss of income claim scandalous.
Sure you can always adjust down and not always up, but a claim for past and future loss of income at $10 million does not even remotely reflect reality. I'm going to get a copy of the claim and read it, but the amount of the claim is absurd on its face. He's almost 50 years old.
Filing claims asking for patently absurd amounts is not good legal practice.
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This is the crux of the issue, and its very refreshing that not all the lawyers in here are trying to justify this practice on the grounds of "that's just how it is".
Through his lawyers Henderson has chosen to go this route, and agreed with these excessive claims. We are certainly entitled to judge his character on that.
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04-21-2017, 03:33 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delgar
Having filed claims for personal injury before, including on behalf of NHL players, I find the loss of income claim scandalous.
Sure you can always adjust down and not always up, but a claim for past and future loss of income at $10 million does not even remotely reflect reality. I'm going to get a copy of the claim and read it, but the amount of the claim is absurd on its face. He's almost 50 years old.
Filing claims asking for patently absurd amounts is not good legal practice.
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That is a bizarre number, even given usual practice. Who is his lawyer? (Sorry too lazy to look)
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04-21-2017, 03:40 PM
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#233
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Retired
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
That is a bizarre number, even given usual practice. Who is his lawyer? (Sorry too lazy to look)
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When I find out I'll PM you and send you the claim.
There also must be a WCB issue here. Could make it hard to pursue if its an accident and not truly intentional.
From a pure personal injury point of view, the claim will succeed however. Just not in the amount claimed.
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04-21-2017, 04:22 PM
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#234
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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A $10.25M claim is stupendously high from we know about the injury and Henderson's employment status and age. How much do linesmen make a year, and when do they on average retire?
Seems more aimed at creating splashy headlines than anything. Pretty unusual practice in my experience.
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04-21-2017, 04:30 PM
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#235
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Delgar
When I find out I'll PM you and send you the claim.
There also must be a WCB issue here. Could make it hard to pursue if its an accident and not truly intentional.
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If WCB could this be a "worker" on 'worker" issue?
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04-21-2017, 04:38 PM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
If WCB could this be a "worker" on 'worker" issue?
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That's a huge issue. Not sure what sort of coverage is in place.
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04-21-2017, 04:39 PM
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#237
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
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I didn't look through the thread so I apologize if this was asked.
The article said "April 18, seeking general damages of $200,000, special damages "to pay for housekeeping, yard work and hospital expenses" of $50,000, not to mention damages for loss of income and future loss of income of $10 million".
How much does an NHL referee/linesman make per year? I understand it is a claim so they are shooting for higher than what his salary and future salary would be but 10 million is crazy. He will be 50 years old at the start of next season. Let's say he were to referee 15 more years, even $200,000 per year would only be 3 M.
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04-21-2017, 04:42 PM
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#238
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
That's a huge issue. Not sure what sort of coverage is in place.
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It looks like it is exempt.
https://my.wcb.ab.ca/rm/wcb.ratemanu...ustries.aspx#S
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Competitive sports of all description
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So Wideman is exempt, but maybe Henderson isn't because he isn't taking part in competitive sport?
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Originally Posted by Sliver
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04-21-2017, 04:48 PM
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#239
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Retired
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
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That's a harder issue to resolve than one might think. He's a paid employee.
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04-22-2017, 08:42 AM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Heres a question, and I'm not sure its been asked in this thread already (I skipped ahead) so if it has, then my apologies.
What Leagues have 'Professional' Referees?
In the NHL refereeing is a career. Its a full time job.
I know that in Soccer most referees normally have a day job because they really only referee on weekends. Its usually funny because you get to hear that this ref is actually the local Dentist or Veterinarian or Judge or whatever.
Same goes for most other European sports.
Are refs in Baseball and Football 'Professionals?' Baseball I can understand, thats a lot of games. But football?
NHL refs and Linesman make 'career' money. Low six-figures to start and it goes up from there to what, I think $350K?
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