[PGT] Flames lose 4-2 in Game 4. Ducks lead series 3-1. Brink of elimination

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by New Era

Really disappointed by some of the comments here. Laying the blame at the feet of Colborne and Gaudreau and Monahan for making mistakes is weak. They are all young and need to learn from the heat of the playoff crucible.

They made mistakes. Big ones. And those mistakes cost us a game where the Ducks otherwise weren't doing much other than daring incompetent officials to do something about dirty play. Calling that fact out does not mean people don't recognize that this is part of the learning process. They will all get better (in Monahan's case, healthier I suspect).

[VladtheImpaler]

No scoring chances in the 3rd, including that pathetic 5 on 3. I think that was the game.

[CSharp]

Nm

[FacePaint]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

No scoring chances in the 3rd, including that pathetic 5 on 3. I think that was the game.

Wideman and Russell both had fantastic chances in the 5 on 3, just missing the top corner by inches...

[Igster]

Originally Posted by FacePaint

Wideman and Russell both had fantastic chances in the 5 on 3, just missing the top corner by inches...

Game of inches.

Monahan hits the bar, Johnny gets robbed by a great save. Could have been a much different game. Flames didn't look out of place at all. If that's the Ducks "best game", the Flames can and will beat them.

#neverquit

[FlamesAddiction]

It's crazy how easy it was to throw the Canucks off their game compared to the Ducks. Not a lot seems to phase them. Plus, neither Ferland or Bouma last night are at 100%.

[skudr248]

Well boys. I am ####ing hungover as #### from the game last night. Lost my phone, probably my dignity also, but I am soon to be boarding a plane to Anaheim with my Flames jersey, car flags for my rental car. The curse will be broken tomorrow, and I will be drunk again. GO FLAMES GO

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Doesn't Harvey die shortly after ?

Yes he did.

But I said something like this and posted his picture just after we lost to MIN and our playoff odds plummeted from 70% ish to around 45%. Seems to have worked out that time, so....

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I have a friend who is an Anahiem fan. Generally he's levelheaded. However, discussing the game with him he gave the referee the benefit of the doubt on everything.

Beauchemin MUST have been cut somehow. Kesler couldn't have bumped Ramo, otherwise they would have called off the goal. Stajan interfered in the Ferland goal which is exactly the same non call on Perry (for the record I don't even know if that's true, it's not Stajan's job to move out of the way). Besides if those were BS the announcers would have talked about it.

So frustrating when people don't look at things objectively.

Objectively I think Anahiem still wins, the Flames stopped skating and Anahiem carried the play.

All I ask for is fair officiating. Apparently that's far too much to expect from one of the top professional sports leagues on the planet.

[DuffMan]

I still can't believe they are still playing and 23 other teams aren't.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

I still can't believe they are still playing and 23 other teams aren't.

Ahem... 24. Minnesota is out

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by skudr248

Well boys. I am ####ing hungover as #### from the game last night. Lost my phone, probably my dignity also, but I am soon to be boarding a plane to Anaheim with my Flames jersey, car flags for my rental car. The curse will be broken tomorrow, and I will be drunk again. GO FLAMES GO

Cool.
After Anaheim scored the 3rd goal they showed a couple wearing Anaheim jerseys cheering along the glass, and the Flanmes dude beside the girl was yanking her towel or something out of her hands. He looked serious, and like he wasn't doing it in a friendly way.
Just thought I'd point that out.

[SuperMatt18]

That was a tough loss because IMO Flames deserved better.

Refs called nothing for the first 30 minutes.

Missed Perry Goalie interference on Ramo, Perry interference on Brodie, Kesler being a baby and tackling Russell, one blatant slash on Colborne right in front of the etc.

Then decide to call 3 straight on Calgary and it turned momentum.

In the end though they gave us a 5-3 to tie it up and we didn't convert so that's the difference and we can't blame the refs there.

[sa226]

It really is difficult to step back and be objective.

I keep having to remind myself that this is year two of the rebuild. We were supposed to be in the Mcdavid sweepstakes. Yet here the Flames are going toe to toe with a Stanley Cup favorite. The Flames are one of 7 teams left standing out of 30. Its crazy to think. When you win a round in the playoffs and have a chance to win another, you aren't a cinderella story, you are a very good hockey team.

But just as Brad Pascall said on the radio yesterday, the playoffs are addicting. Its the best part of the season. Now that the Flames have showed that they can beat Anaheim, I want this series so bad. I want them to keep it going and will be quite disappointed if they don't. Whenever this season does end (Hopefully not Sunday) I will be chomping at the bit for October.

Its been one helluva ride this passed year, pretty please Flames just keep it going.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

A heck of a lot of ref blaming for a team that got a 5 on 3 in the back half of the third... This game should have gone to OT.

[blender]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

A heck of a lot of ref blaming for a team that got a 5 on 3 in the back half of the third... This game should have gone to OT.

I know that Hartley and the Flames won't blame the refs. Too much character, and that's all that matters.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

A heck of a lot of ref blaming for a team that got a 5 on 3 in the back half of the third... This game should have gone to OT.

Giving a team a 5-3 doesn't mean you didn't miss blatant calls that helped turn momentum back to the Ducks in the game.

I think most realize the biggest reason for the loss was the failed 5-3, but in the first 40 the reffing was very one-sided.

[FlamesAddiction]

Yeah, honestly I didn't think the reffing was too one-sided either way. It wasn't necessarily good pre se. I hate how inconsistent it is. One minute they call everything, the next they put their whistles away. Any time that happens, some team is going to get burned from it though.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

A heck of a lot of ref blaming for a team that got a 5 on 3 in the back half of the third... This game should have gone to OT.

Getting a 5-on-3 doesn't excuse the blatant missed calls from earlier in the game.

Should they have scored? Yeah, probably. But does that mean we should not discuss the poor job the refs did for the other 58 minutes? Nope.

[sa226]

That 5 on 3 wan't even in the "even up" realm of calls. The penalty on Brodie was a clear high stick/hook. The penalty on Gaudreau was a clear hold that caused him to lose the puck.

In the playoffs the refs have to manage the game. Things are so chippy that they really have to decide how its going to be called. Every call made was a penalty. Its the completely obvious missed calls that affect the flow of the game. Perry and Kesler being the main culprits.

I don't know the rule on Stajan's disputed interference. Is it interference? Or did he establish body position? That could have gone either way.

The Colborne penalty is a definite 2 minutes and very careless. But 4 mins for intent? Going into the 3rd of a tied playoff hockey game, with everything that has occurred up until that point? Give me a break.

Its quite amazing how Corey Perry has such a famous reputation for doing what he does yet the refs don't seem to care and just let him get away with it.

Its not the first time reffing will be a hot topic and it won't be the last. If they score on that 5 on 3, we aren't talking about it nearly as much. Such is the flow of a hockey game.