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Old 01-07-2015, 08:39 PM   #221
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Some media reports are that he turn himself in fast because he is innocent and classmates at his school are providing an alibi.
yeah that was earlier in the thread ... but if it was near the Belgian border that story kinda seems impossible.
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Why not, or at the least what the hell do we get by supporting them?
They treat the Palestinians like dirt, we wear that in the eyes of Muslims the world over. What the hell do we get out of it?

At some point it be hooves us to tell Israel, you made your own bed, now lie in it.
Yeah those Palestinians treat Israelis very well don't they ...

I'm guessing Israel and the west are at fault for the civil unrest and sectarian violence in many Islamic countries? Going by your logic ...
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Old 01-07-2015, 09:04 PM   #223
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Yeah those Palestinians treat Israelis very well don't they ...

I'm guessing Israel and the west are at fault for the civil unrest and sectarian violence in many Islamic countries? Going by your logic ...
I don't know about Israel in this discussion, but yes, certainly, 'the west' is.
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yeah that was earlier in the thread ... but if it was near the Belgian border that story kinda seems impossible.
Is his school and town near the border?
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I have to say that the above is the dumbest thing that I've ever seen.

Beyond that can we please keep the whole religious BS arguments in a thread about that subject instead of spreading out a thread on a current event that's actually happening.
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just watched the video, where's the police? they execute that cop, leisurely get in the car and slowly drive away.
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just watched the video, where's the police? they execute that cop, leisurely get in the car and slowly drive away.
Pretty sure they fired at another police car too, so there was some there
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still talk about a s#@##y police response
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I don't think your average french street cop is armed, and it takes a bit of time to muster and move out an armed reaction team.

This attack was up and over in about a half an hour if I read right.

The planning and coordination of this attack made it tough to get armed intervention on the street.
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I don't think your average french street cop is armed, and it takes a bit of time to muster and move out an armed reaction team.

This attack was up and over in about a half an hour if I read right.

The planning and coordination of this attack made it tough to get armed intervention on the street.
I heard most of the killing was done in under 5 minutes
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Yeah those Palestinians treat Israelis very well don't they ...

I'm guessing Israel and the west are at fault for the civil unrest and sectarian violence in many Islamic countries? Going by your logic ...
I'm not arguing we should support the Palestinians, just the Israelis are no better and we should wash our hands of the pair of them.

And yes most of the chaos in the Middle East is the wests fault from our support of the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussain to our invasion of Iraq for no good reason, our continued support of the house of Suad, you can go back a century and see our sticky inept fingers over all of this.
These terrorists are French Algerian, look up the Algerian war of independence, just maybe that had a role in their disenchantment with the west?
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I think if something like this happened here there would be more than 1-2 police cars responding with a better response time. Maybe it's different over there.
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I don't think your average french street cop is armed, and it takes a bit of time to muster and move out an armed reaction team.

This attack was up and over in about a half an hour if I read right.

The planning and coordination of this attack made it tough to get armed intervention on the street.
Actually the French police are pretty well tooled up but the cop that was killed was likely not aware of what he was running into, just the average beat cop heading towards the sound of trouble.
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I think if something like this happened here there would be more than 1-2 police cars responding with a better response time. Maybe it's different over there.
Its different over here.

Law enforcement is on more of a hair trigger in North America in terms of crisis response.
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I heard most of the killing was done in under 5 minutes
Yeah but the gunmen were visible for about 30 minutes.

That's what I read anyways.
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I'm not arguing we should support the Palestinians, just the Israelis are no better and we should wash our hands of the pair of them.

And yes most of the chaos in the Middle East is the wests fault from our support of the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussain to our invasion of Iraq for no good reason, our continued support of the house of Suad, you can go back a century and see our sticky inept fingers over all of this.
These terrorists are French Algerian, look up the Algerian war of independence, just maybe that had a role in their disenchantment with the west?
No sorry it's not our fault. Islam is at war with more that just the west. If you don't believe in their brainwashed ####ed up religion they would happily dispose of you. Brainwashed idiots from cradle to grave
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Its different over here.

Law enforcement is on more of a hair trigger in North America in terms of crisis response.
I'm not sure it would be that different, Paris is a large city hard to get around by car, that would slow response somewhat but otherwise it's the usual delays due to unclear reports of shots fired from about 20 different places.
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i'm pissed off that someone could pull off an attack like this and drive away humming a tune.

I Think it's time for big changes in the free world, we can't just keep living hoping this s#$$ doesn't happen. Don't know what the answer is. what do we have to do, armed soldiers standing on every corner? jesus
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i'm pissed off that someone could pull off an attack like this and drive away humming a tune.

I Think it's time for big changes in the free world, we can't just keep living hoping this s#$$ doesn't happen. Don't know what the answer is. what do we have to do, armed soldiers standing on every corner? jesus
It's definitely a cliche, but then "the terrorists win". I don't pretend to know what these lunatics are ultimately after, but changing our society has got to be a part of it.
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