[Trade] Luongo (15% retained salary) traded to Panthers for Jacob Markstrom & Shawn Matthias

[Yoho]

Bravo Torts.

[Boblobla]

Gord Miller ‏@GMillerTSN 2m
Luongo told me on Saturday at the Canucks family skate that he wouldn't be playing on Sunday at BC Place. He seemed absolutely defeated.

[morgin]

I'm really happy for Luongo. Dude deserves this. I don't think anyone can criticize how he handled the last 2 years. The Canucks, on the other hand...

[TKB]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Seems silly to me... also, Bob said specifically he didn't believe there was any trade in the works for Luongo as of Sunday, so he may be trying to save face for calling that one wrong. Anyway, doesn't really matter what the motivations are.

This would be $795k against the cap. Pretty insignificant with the cap going up even just for next year, and less so going forward.

Whether the deal is good or bad really depends on your context. Schneider and Luongo for Horvat, Markstrom and Matthias is terrible as of the beginning of last season. Not keeping Schneider was an absurd mistake (depending who Horvat becomes of course).

But as of today? Surprisingly good looking trade made by Gillis. I'm surprised he got anything of value at all, much less a good (if no longer blue chip) prospect and an NHL quality player.

No matter how you want to spin it, it's actually very bad. Markstrom is far from even being a NHL backup at this point. Mathias is a 3rd line center at best so far in his career. On top of it who knows if Horvat will ever amount to jack squat!

[FlameZilla]

@StAnthony16: Must say I think I'm the real prize for Florida in this Luongo trade @strombone1......#blockbuster

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

With Kesler your forward depth is marginally better than the Flames and when you look at prospects base its not even close. Without Kessler you have the Sedins and nobody and I assume Gillis would get one quality NHL forward in return but man are you guys thin on offensive skill throughout the organization. You are probably bottoming out whether you choose to believe it or not.

I disagree on the prospects base, I think both are average/below-average

neither are great

but for the NHL depth going forward it completely depends on what Gillis gets for Kesler and/or Edler

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'm not saying we should have rebuilt two years after we made it to the finals. I'm saying that after basically 9 seasons of steady digression with the previous three being out of the playoffs we started three years too late. In the Canucks' first season out of the playoffs they've started the rebuild. If they were the Flames they'd still try to ride out that core for another two seasons. We have now three lost years. Canucks will have one.

We all know that the Flames waited too late but the Canucks are going to find out once you fall out of the playoffs there is no guarantee that you get back quickly. We can't see the future but it's not out of the realm of possibility the Flames rebuild will make the playoffs before the Canucks rebuild.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Gord Miller ‏@GMillerTSN 2m
Luongo told me on Saturday at the Canucks family skate that he wouldn't be playing on Sunday at BC Place. He seemed absolutely defeated.

He definitely should have gotten the start in that game. Glad he's out of that trainwreck of a franchise.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I disagree on the prospects base, I think both are average/below-average

neither are great

but for the NHL depth going forward it completely depends on what Gillis gets for Kesler and/or Edler

HF has the Flames at 10th and THN has us moving up as well. Please don't argue the Canucks is better.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I'm not saying we should have rebuilt two years after we made it to the finals. I'm saying that after basically 9 seasons of steady digression with the previous three being out of the playoffs we started three years too late. In the Canucks' first season out of the playoffs they've started the rebuild. If they were the Flames they'd still try to ride out that core for another two seasons. We have now three lost years. Canucks will have one.

Have the Canucks started the rebuild or traded a guy who asked for a trade?

Trying hard to fit this into your narrative. All teams are dragged kicking and screaming into a rebuild, not just the Flames.

[CaptainCrunch]

If I looked at it right if Loungo walks away in 2018 the Canucks are on the hook for over 2 million dollars

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by morgin

I'm really happy for Luongo. Dude deserves this. I don't think anyone can criticize how he handled the last 2 years. The Canucks, on the other hand...

The organization and the fans are pretty much to blame. The fans turned on Luongo some time ago, and the organization never properly stood up for him.

[The Fonz]

What a glorious day.

[sureLoss]

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
VAN is taking back money on Luongo's contract. It varies in amounts each year. Around $1M (ballpark) for each of first four years.

hmm I thought you couldn't vary the retained percentage

[Fire in the disco]

My favorite part of all of this Canuck drama is going to be the Van fan base reaction next time they play in the dome.

Hahaha

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

HF has the Flames at 10th and THN has us moving up as well. Please don't argue the Canucks is better.

I dont think they are better, I think Flames are 10-15 and Canucks are probably 15-18ish

neither are something you write home about

[The Fonz]

Kesler next

[puds]

I don't think it's particularly bad trade fore Vancouver. Given his contract they were never going to get much for him. However, the way that franchise handled the situation over the past year is embarrassing.

[joejoe3]

Hence the reason why he didn't get to play in the Heritage Classic

[Philly06Cup]

I don't understand this deal from FLA's perspective.

Why trade for an aging goalie? Do they think the will be contenders in the next 3 years? They've got some pieces in Barkov and Huberdeau, but they will be a few more years.