Survivor Brains vs Brawn vs Beauty - Feb 26

[killer_carlson]

Has there been a girl who has won three individual immunities before?

I can't think of one but Tash has to be putting herself in an all time player category. Great game from her so far.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I'd love to see a Spencer, Tasha, Tony final. Not sure how Tony doesn't go to the end now with the 2 idols, unless something crazy happens. They have to vote for him next week and make him use the special idol if they don't want him in the final 3. He could still win an immunity challenge too.

[Cheese]

Tony "should win" but wont. He's pissed too many people off. If Spencer or Tasha make it to final 3, one of them wins. Tony needs to take Woo and hormones with him to have a shot.

[ernie]

Kass continues to be a clueless passenger that has deluded herself into thinking she has a chance to win the game. Her "big move" came way to early, was pointless and put a good chunk of the jury against her because of it. Since then she has coasted.

Not yet convinced Tony makes it to the final 3. He'll get forced to play his regular idol next tribal I think which gets him to final 5. They will still be gunning for him the next time and he'll end up playing his power idol getting him to the final 4. After that he'll need to win a challenge. By breaking from his alliance and promising the moon to everyone he continues to put a bullseye on his back. And now that everything is fractured people are going to actually start shooting at that bullseye and not as Spencer/Tasha.

He makes the final 3 if the other two believe he has no chance to get votes. I don't think that's a chance people take with a guy who has controlled the game if they don't have to. Yes he has annoyed a lot of people but it's been his game since the beginning and there is likely a fear that he get respect votes.

Where Tony made the mistake was forgetting that in order to "guarantee" the win he needed to bring Kass and the old skinny one to the final three ( i seriously have no idea what her name is...she's made that much of an impression on me). Maybe he can beat Woo. But if Spencer or Tasha are sitting next to him he's done. But now Kass and the other one will be gunning for him. He now may need people to explicitly save him at some point and bring him along. Which means he likely failed in his bid to become the winner. His pitch to the jury was on controlling the game from start to finish...he may have just given up that control. He still feels he has the control due to his idols but he isn't free and clear yet.

[Flash Walken]

Kass is coming across as so petty and unlikeable.

Realllllly spiteful.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by ernie

Not yet convinced Tony makes it to the final 3. He'll get forced to play his regular idol next tribal I think which gets him to final 5. They will still be gunning for him the next time and he'll end up playing his power idol getting him to the final 4. After that he'll need to win a challenge.

I don't think he has to do that in that order. He can just wait until he's voted out (which may or may not be next week) and then use the special idol first. Then he can play the regular idol after that. But you're right, if they can only use idols until the top four he's guaranteed to get there. After that he will indeed need to win the last immunity challenge to guarantee himself a spot in the final tribal.

[squiggs96]

I don't think Tony makes the move to vote Jeffra unless he has the two idols. My number one rule for Survivor is stick to your alliance, and then when everyone outside is voted out, then you fight it out amongst your allies. Flipping very seldom works. Pissing off your alliance is the quickest way to lose the game. There is no good in keeping Spencer around. I like him and hope either him or Tash win, but that was really poor strategy. Tony just keeps making up these theories and strategies that don't need to be done.

I still think Tony is one of the worst cops I've seen. He's so paranoid and his decision making isn't rational. He reminds me of Inspector Gadget. I will admit he is a good detective in finding the idols.

[ernie]

Honestly by this point players ought to be able to find idols without clues. Somewhere near camp there are distinguishing features...big trees various other things that stick out. That's where they put the idols. Now of course it may be editing but rarely do we see people just searching for the sake of searching. Some do and have found them that way but most just sit there doing nothing.

I also wish they'd quit feeding these people and actually make them find food like they did the first couple of seasons.

[trackercowe]

I would have taken Jefra to the final tribal anyway, she had absolutely no chance at winning the game.

[Cheese]

killer_carlson's flame is extinguished and Komskies takes his first hit.

AMAZINGLY...3 Brains are still left in this game along with 3 Brawn.

[JD]

I agree Kass is coming across as a passenger, but really, her game is playing out the way she said she wanted it to back when she made her move. She said the name of the game is "anyone but me" and being a wallflower in the power alliance is a good way to have that manifest. The problem is the way it comes across in the social aspect of the final votes - she will be viewed as a passenger, even though she very deliberately put herself in that spot.

Tony is so entertainingly paranoid. With those two idols, he could sit back with his feet up, let his alliance get him to the point where his idols can take him the rest of the way. Instead, he sees the wrong group of people talking in the water, and suddenly the conspiracy is on. So great to watch. You can just see the wheels turning as he watches things happen around him. He's a good player, but sometimes you just need to let things happen. He does too much.

This is a good season. So many likeable players still in the game.

[Flash Walken]

As petty and spiteful as Kass has been portrayed, I still think she's playing a wonderful game of survivor, totally agree JD.

She made a big move, has influenced votes but stayed under the vote out radar even though she's relatively untrustworthy.

Depending on if she makes a big move, I could see voting for her in the final. If you compare her to some of the others that Tony could take to the final 3, she's probably the most likely to peel votes.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Disappointing vote tonight, I was hoping for more fireworks.

[trackercowe]

It made sense to vote Tasha out, she would have won the game had she gone to final tribal. Now Tony is definitely the odds on favorite to take it, especially with Trish and Wu there who will fare poorly in a verbal barrage.

[WhiteTiger]

Well, Tony's in the Final Three now for sure. He's playing this game pretty amazingly, and is a lot of fun to watch. Despite the calls here that he "must be a bad cop"...it was pretty interesting watch his reasoning things out pretty quickly today. Like Woo said (I think)...you can't lie to him, and he keeps a good eye on behavior and behavioral changes.

[Cheese]

well Tony must play the idol next show so he still either has to win immunity at 4 or be ensured no one will vote him off at 4. Not sure he is a shoe in just yet.
A final 3 of Woo, Kass and skeleton lady would be anyones game.

DOOM takes first hit and Bootsy is voted off the island.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Cheese

well Tony must play the idol next show so he still either has to win immunity at 4 or be ensured no one will vote him off at 4. Not sure he is a shoe in just yet.
A final 3 of Woo, Kass and skeleton lady would be anyones game.

DOOM takes first hit and Bootsy is voted off the island.

He's got 2 idols though. He plays his regular one next week, and his special the week after, and he's in the Final 3.

Wonder who goes with him, though...does he take Woo and Trish, saying that he's played them all along? I think that Spence is the last person Tony wants to be sitting beside. Maybe Trish and Kass would be a good pair to bring.

[Cheese]

He cant...Im sure all idols must be played by 5...his unplayed idol will be a souvenir. Tony still needs to ensure he wins immunity at 4, which he has been unable to do so far, or ensure that those with him want him at final 3.

rules:

Hidden immunity idols are pocket-sized necklaces made to fit the theme of the season—that are hidden around the tribes' camps or other locations that the castaways have access to. When a castaway finds one of the idols, they have the option of concealing the fact that they have it, or strategically revealing the fact to other castaways. The idols can provide a one-time immunity to a castaway at Tribal Council, if played—which they can be, typically, anytime before the third-to-last Tribal Council. For example, they can be played during the tribal council of the final five castaways in a season where the final tribal council will consist of three players.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivo...immunity_idols

[WhiteTiger]

Ah, my mistake, then. I was under the impression that the only time you couldn't use an Immunity Idol was the Jury Vote. That any vote beyond that was fair game.

[Komskies]

Tony can use his special idol next week and gift his regular idol to whomever he wants to protect. The power is definitely in his hands right now.