[Rumour] Iginla Trade Talk: Iginla scratched from CGY Vs. COL

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by Gunkle

Proven playoff player??? You must have a hell of a memory.

54games - 28goals - 21assists - 49points.

On top of that he will be rejuvenated to be back in the playoffs and can play like a beast still. Yeah he does have one hell of a memory.

[Captain_Obvious]

Up until this season I was always of the opinion I never wanted to see Iggy leave, even through a re-build.

But after watching the last 20+ games where he's been forced to play on a line centered by wingers, 3rd liners and grinders at the centre ice position... Iggy deserves better.



Really hoping he ends up in Pittsburgh. He and Crosby have been magic in the past and it would be amazing to see him play with a legitimate top line centre for the first time in his NHL career.

[Hemi-Cuda]

if Iginla gets traded to Boston, my first move will be to get Thomas' name removed from my Bruins jersey and replaced with #12

[Vinny01]

WouldBoston consider Hamilton for Iggy? This Morrow for Morrow trade really shows this is a sellers market

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

Sure, it never hurts to have more, but if I was Chicago I'd look at my roster, which has been dominating all season, and then I'd consider how much Iginla is going to add to that roster and weigh that against how much it would cost to add him.

In the end, I'd expect Iginla to help a bit, but cost a lot, and frankly, I wouldn't be convinced the roster I've already got couldn't run the table anyway. So I wouldn't make that trade. I'd be much more inclined to add cheaper, grittier depth that wouldn't make me sacrifice the team's future to any degree. It just doesn't seem necessary.

Of the bunch, I still think LA is the most likely trading partner, particularly if Morrow really has gone to Pittsburgh as rumored.

If I was Chicago, I might find Bouwmeester more attractive in principle given his compatibility with their high speed game. I imagine there'd be salary issues there though.

I see what you're saying. But if PIT/BOS/LA add some scoring depth CHI may feel they need to as well to keep up with the Joneses. And even if those teams don't its not like CHI is the highest scoring team in the league.

Goals For
PIT 114
CHI 102
TB 101 (WTF? Out of a playoff position)
ANA 100
MON 98

If anything you'd argue PIT would be the least likely to add scoring and yet it appears they are looking to add scoring (Morrow rumour).

CHI isn't so dominant in scoring that they don't need to add IMO.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Don't need a pat on the back from you. I have the posts going back years to prove it. The fact that you loathe me is all the satisfaction I need. A poster here you can't badger or break. A poster that will stand up for you and go toe to toe. Fear-monger? Pussycat IMO.

LOL...oh boy...you da man EE!!!

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

WouldBoston consider Hamilton for Iggy? This Morrow for Morrow trade really shows this is a sellers market

Boston would be nuts to move a piece like that for any free agent.

[PeteLFan]

Originally Posted by Captain_Obvious

Up until this season I was always of the opinion I never wanted to see Iggy leave, even through a re-build.

But after watching the last 20+ games where he's been forced to play on a line centered by wingers, 3rd liners and grinders at the centre ice position... Iggy deserves better.



Really hoping he ends up in Pittsburgh. He and Crosby have been magic in the past and it would be amazing to see him play with a legitimate top line centre for the first time in his NHL career.

Lets us not forget the years when where supposed contenders. He was centered by the likes of reinprecht, Marcus Nilsson, flanked by stars like Simon, kobasew and our big acquisition of mike leclerc.

[flylock shox]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

I see what you're saying. But if PIT/BOS/LA add some scoring depth CHI may feel they need to as well to keep up with the Joneses. And even if those teams don't its not like CHI is the highest scoring team in the league.

Goals For
PIT 114
CHI 102
TB 101 (WTF? Out of a playoff position)
ANA 100
MON 98

If anything you'd argue PIT would be the least likely to add scoring and yet it appears they are looking to add scoring (Morrow rumour).

CHI isn't so dominant in scoring that they don't need to add IMO.

That's all true, but Chicago actually has scoring depth. Pittsburgh doesn't. Crosby's made a sniper of Kunitz all season, but what if Kunitz gets injured after the trade deadline? Worse still, what if they lose one of Crosby or Malkin for an extended period?

Chicago, if it loses one of its big offensive weapons, still has at least two of Toews, Kane, and Hossa, not to mention their not-too-shabby second tier players.

I suppose the difference for me is that Pittsburgh might want to add Iginla to add depth and balance out its attack. For Chicago, which already has a deep and balanced attack, Iginla would be more of a luxury - and too pricey a luxury in all likelihood.

Who knows though. Trade deadlines are nutty.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Read my initial post again and note how I said his support was waning. 30% is still a fairly large number three years ago and it was below 50% last year. Backs up my comment. The only goalpost moving is by you because you.

Oh and the nonsense view is in the eye of the beholder. Iginla is no saint in this whole Flames mess and I'm not for kicking him out the door but I have no problems moving on from his leadership of this club all the same.

No EE...you moved the goalposts...its all right there for everyone to see. I never commented on this year, last year or 2 years ago...thats just you doing what you do best.

Not sure how you are blaming Iginla for this mess, but whatever.

I just think that the piling on at this point is more than unfair to guy that, regardless of how you feel about him, has given his heart and soul to this club for almost 2 decades now.

Hope he returns a pile of assets whenever he goes and also hope he wins the holy grail too.

Im just not going to celebrate the fact he is in this position nor that it has come to this, and i have no idea how anyone really can beyond opposing teams fans.

[miraisoup]

@GeorgejohnsonCH 1m
The fact that two potential Iginla destinations, Pitt and Bos, are after Morrow would further indicate Cal out of whack with demands.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

That's all true, but Chicago actually has scoring depth. Pittsburgh doesn't. Crosby's made a sniper of Kunitz all season, but what if Kunitz gets injured after the trade deadline? Worse still, what if they lose one of Crosby or Malkin for an extended period?

Chicago, if it loses one of its big offensive weapons, still has at least two of Toews, Kane, and Hossa, not to mention their not-too-shabby second tier players.

Well you could say PIT has Crosby, Malkin, Neal and Kunitz for scoring depth. Seems at least as good at CHI if not better.

Not sure how you can make the bolded statement above when PIT is leading the NHL in goals for by a massive 12 goal difference. Does that not indicate they currently have the best offensive depth in the league?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by miraisoup

@GeorgejohnsonCH 1m
The fact that two potential Iginla destinations, Pitt and Bos, are after Morrow would further indicate Cal out of whack with demands.

Sigh. Johnson is so bitter these days. I don't read it the same way George.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by miraisoup

@GeorgejohnsonCH 1m
The fact that two potential Iginla destinations, Pitt and Bos, are after Morrow would further indicate Cal out of whack with demands.

Just silly. No team should focus solely on one player. I doubt any one of the teams listed are focusing on Jarome Iginla alone.

Feaster and co need to start the asking price for Jarome high. Pittsburg taking Morrow off the market could easily force a remaining team to offer a little bit more today to make sure they get the prize of trade deadline.

[Vedder]

I do think the Flames should move him sooner rather than later. If the list is 4, will those teams increase bids closer to deadline, or just look for other solutions if price is too high? Plus every game you wait is one where he could get injured...

[Hustle]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Sigh. Johnson is so bitter these days. I don't read it the same way George.

This. It could be the truth but it's really hard to take anything Johnson says objectively given the axe he's had to grind over the last 3 years. If a Duhatschek or Friedman came out and said this it would be a lot more credible in my mind.

Obviously, Iggy isn't going to return what he would have in 2009 but the deadline is still 10 days out and GM's lose their mind around this time of the season. If they decide to trade Iginla it'll be for a decent haul.

[Hockeyboy2]

In a Pens trade scenario my own overzealous expectations for a Jarome Iginla trade would be a return of Kris Letang and / or James Neal plus a 1st Rd Draft Pick.

I would suspect that in such a scenario that return expectation would be significantly lower and more realistic.

Any thoughts as to what those realistic expectations should be for fans?

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by Hockeyboy2

In a Pens trade scenario my own overzealous expectations for a Jarome Iginla trade would be a return of Kris Letang and / or James Neal plus a 1st Rd Draft Pick.

I would suspect that in such a scenario that return expectation would be significantly lower and more realistic.

Any thoughts as to what those realistic expectations should be for fans?

More realistic scenario from pens would be a first, matta/pouliot/morrow, and kennedy

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Hockeyboy2

In a Pens trade scenario my own overzealous expectations for a Jarome Iginla trade would be a return of Kris Letang and / or James Neal plus a 1st Rd Draft Pick.

I would suspect that in such a scenario that return expectation would be significantly lower and more realistic.

Any thoughts as to what those realistic expectations should be for fans?

Well, I would have thought that Morrow + 1st would have done it, but apparently not, otherwise we wouldn't have Pitt trying to trade Morrow for Brendan freaking Morrow atm.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by Hockeyboy2

In a Pens trade scenario my own overzealous expectations for a Jarome Iginla trade would be a return of Kris Letang and / or James Neal plus a 1st Rd Draft Pick.

I would suspect that in such a scenario that return expectation would be significantly lower and more realistic.

Any thoughts as to what those realistic expectations should be for fans?

A large portion of that will be based on what Morrow brings back in a trade. This will set the bar for just how bat **** crazy GM's are willing to go in the next 10 days.