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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yep that's another example and another great head coach in Trotz. Not saying Hartley isn't a good coach but there simply isn't the talent or commitment on the roster to be successful playing his up tempo style of play.
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On 960 this morning on the way to work Peter Maher mentioned that during the Hartley presser last night that Hartley talked about his frustrations with the team playing well and following the system for parts of games and being successful and then playing completely inconsistent hockey and falling off track; paraphrasing obviously.
Maher further made it clear that this is exactly the same things Keenan, Sutter, and to a lesser extent Playfair were saying about this team; so four coaches now who have the same frustrations.
The Flames have moved out and replaced many pieces and there are 6 current roster players who have played for at least 3 of the coaches:
Glencross - 3 coaches
Iginla - 4 coaches
Tanguay - 4 coaches
Giordano - 4 coaches
Sarich - 3 coaches
Kipper - 4 coaches
Who is/are the culprit(s)?
I know that Giordano is having a tough year and Sarich is aging and not what he once was, but based on what I have seen over time, I believe these two players give everything they have consistently. I don't know much about how Kipper is in the room but I doubt he has anything to do with it either.
That leaves us with Glencross, Igginla, and Tanguay. Glencross is inconsistent in terms of performance and his effort seems to increase and be consistent on any line except the first line. Of what I have seen of Tanguay in a Flames and Avalanche uniform, I believe that he follows along with the leaders of the team and if they are going all out, he does as well and if they are floating, he floats; he has also spent a couple seasons away from the team.
Finally we have Iginla. I admire Iginla and all he has done for the team. He has won a Messier leadership award and his peers respect his leadership abilities and praise him verbally to the media, so how is it possible it is Iginla that is the problem?
We can argue that through 4 coaches with different approaches and philosophies, it likely isn't the coach. Players like Langkow, Jokinen, Phaneuf, and Regehr are gone, so it wasn't one of them. It's unlikely that it is any of the other 5 players who have played for at least 3 of the coaches.
So that leaves us with either Iginla, or potentially, Ken King; although I have no idea how.
It makes my gut turn coming to the conclusion that Iginla is the likely culprit somehow and players like Tanguay, and to a lesser extent Glencross, assist in manifesting the issue.
This is not a hate Iggy post or even a get rid of Iggy post. This is simply where I think the issue stems from.
It would be interesting to hear from other posters where they think the inconsistency in effort and lack of interest in playing the coaches style full time comes from.
