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Old 02-21-2013, 09:04 AM   #221
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Given Sony's start to the current generation I see why they felt the need to be aggressive and get themselves out there early. I do think this comes at the cost of demo gameplay as a few of those had to be quite early. Aside from the dragon game from Capcom, nothing looked overly impossible (anybody remember the Madden HD first look from the 360 launch?).

I'm not actually that interested in graphics. The RAM upgrade is very interesting and the architecture built with developers in mind is very interesting to me. The PS3 was publicly torn apart for being needlessly complicated so for the first few years everybody just build on 360 and then did what they could to shoe-horn a port into the PS3. To hear they are focusing on developers is a big thing for them I think.

I've always wondered how the hell we'd ever get to a download-only future with games ballooning to the sizes they're at for this generation. Streaming/downloading is a great solution I hadn't thought of, and the ability to play anything instantly is cool.

While I'm hesitant about Gaikai being able to pull through with their streaming plans, if they can do it it'll be amazing. The 1 hour trials of full games for Playstation Plus members is outstanding, with the only downside being download times (you have to download the entire game). Also, the ability to have ps2 and ps3 games always available is incredibly cool. My hope is Sony has learned lessons from Steam and sees that people don't seem overly concerned with used games if you just put on a crazy sale every 6 months.

I see lots to like here. They couldn't announce too much otherwise E3 would just be a giant snooze for them (plus I'm sure they have an alarming ways to go still). I had my sights set on buying a new iPhone this year, but this has given me slight pause. My thinking was that I have too many ps3 games as it is and could be held over for a long time. If I could get those games easily on ps4 (many are in my Playstation Plus Instant Game Collection), then it would make things a lot tougher to ignore.

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Old 02-21-2013, 09:20 AM   #222
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Will buy near launch. Will continue to use it solely as a Blu-Ray & Netflix player and a Fifa & COD machine.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:59 AM   #223
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ya after watching the video it doesn't even look as good as Battlefield 3 on the PC. whenever you see any of the textures up close they look like crap
My stream wasn't that great, did you managed to get a full HD feed to see that much detail/see that it was that poor?
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:03 AM   #224
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Purchase considerations will be over console-exclusive titles. All my gaming PCs already outweigh it in processing power, so it will take some really awesome console-exclusive stuff to make it worth buying.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:14 PM   #225
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Purchase considerations will be over console-exclusive titles. All my gaming PCs already outweigh it in processing power, so it will take some really awesome console-exclusive stuff to make it worth buying.
I agree. Nothing earth shattering about that conference/announcement. They didn't show anything that's going to make me want to buy a PS4. I'll probably be buying Watchdogs on PC. Destiny will be multiplatform and I would bet that Deep Down will be as well. I've never been interested in Killzone and that demo made it look pretty bland.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:34 PM   #226
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Not that many people care but when Chris Metzen from blizzard was asked if Diablo 3 was only going to be on PS3/4 his answer was " Well this is sony's night so we don't want to discuss it" I'd expect the xbox version to be announced at PAX East.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:49 PM   #227
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Heh, the Diablo forums are self imploding since the announcement. They can't delete all the complaint posts fast enough.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:37 PM   #228
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I'm confused, are you impressed by the new Killzone? Because it looked freaking terrible.
For what it's worth, here is the 720p stream - anybody have the 1080+ video?

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Old 02-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #229
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I am definitely on board with the PS4. Good announcement, the hardware is solid and the more approachable architecture added to the fact that Sony is 1000x easier to deal with for small companies than Microsoft is, there are going to be some very good "indie" games headed Sony's ways.

I'll be pre-ordering the moment they start taking 'em.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:16 PM   #230
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All confirmed realtime.

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This was also a real playable demo:



And we all know how that turned out now don't we.
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All confirmed realtime.

Bring. It. ON.
Sweet, PS4 will look like PC games did last year.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:09 PM   #233
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Sweet, PS4 will look like PC games did last year.
Even sweeter is that I can actually play it with my buddies when they come over.
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There should be no excuse for launch graphics being sub-par. There's no more BS about developers having to come to grips with a unique architecture and all the BS about unlocking the power of cell, etc. (which never happened because it was bottle-necked all over the place, especially by ram limitations).

After Sony realized the folly of the PS3 and the debacle of the cell architecture and going it their own way (as Sony almost always fails at doing), the PS4 has proper x86/x64 PC based architecture, memory, and graphics, etc.

They should be able to leverage all developer knowledge on the PC side almost directly as the graphics are only now are still going to be equivalent of what PC's have been capable of for the last 2 years.
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More evolutionary than revolutionary. Not a huge gamer at all (probably spent 100 hours on my PS3 in 4 years) but don't see why they couldn't go on with the PS3 for a few more years? I see more background details in the video demos, but I don't see anything remotely revolutionary?
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More evolutionary than revolutionary. Not a huge gamer at all (probably spent 100 hours on my PS3 in 4 years) but don't see why they couldn't go on with the PS3 for a few more years? I see more background details in the video demos, but I don't see anything remotely revolutionary?
The ps3 isn't going anywhere.
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Even sweeter is that I can actually play it with my buddies when they come over.
I pity anyone who has never enjoyed a LAN party.

Also, on that note, Media PC + 4x WiiMotes and/or 4x360 Wireless controllers + a gajillion ROMs makes for a more fun night than playing whatever terrible game EA or 2K is putting out this year.

But but but but updated rosters!
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what's this game?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:33 PM   #239
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what's this game?
Not a game, Just a Capcom release showing what they can do with the PS4 architecture. Square Enix did one as well and I thought it was the best looking.

Ubisofts game Watchdog looked real cool too but the Ubi soft games of late have been a let down to me.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:17 PM   #240
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More evolutionary than revolutionary. Not a huge gamer at all (probably spent 100 hours on my PS3 in 4 years) but don't see why they couldn't go on with the PS3 for a few more years? I see more background details in the video demos, but I don't see anything remotely revolutionary?
As Mr.MastadonFarm said, the PS3 is still going to have a 10 year life-cycle. After all, the PS2 was still moving literally millions of systems as late as last year (11 years after launch). Sony isn't big on killing off old sku's at all.

Consoles don't need refreshes, but it certainly helps. As it's been touched on only a couple times by PC fans in this thread, the consoles get technically outdated pretty quick, and with no way to really upgrade the power that's the horse you have to ride for 6 years.
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