[News] With the 21st overall pick Flames select C Mark Jankowski

[Dion]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

From a purely fan perspective it's hard to like the pick, it's a player no one has heard of. But we aren't scouts or management.

From a Flames fan perspective, I'd be disappointed that they passed on (seemingly) better picks at the #14 spot. Though we won't know for sure for a number of years, it's only natural for a large number of the fanbase to be disappointed at this time.

The kid has a ton of upside and great hockey sense. Then there's the fact that 25 scouts were showing up to watch this kid play. It seems he was on the radar of alot of teams and many were interested in him. For sure he's a bit of a gamble but i'm willing to wait to see how he pans out. Besides it's not as if were going to challenge for the Cup anytime soon so why not build for the future.

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by moon

What makes this guy anymore likely to be a first line center than guys like Gaunce?

This high risk high reward BS is just that BS. His high reward is no more higher than say Gaunce, the Finnish kid, Maata etc. Its fine to like the pick but his potential is not higher than other kids that went before or around him which is why he was picked where he was.



You mean like Caged Great who is acting much more like an expert than anyone but since he is saying ridiculously positive things I guess people won't whine about that.



I can't say I am surprised about at the names of people overrating and rushing to spin this pick.

Actually by all accounts it sounds like this kid is much more of a project then those other players named and that he is much more high risk/ high reward.

[Metro Gnome]

Flames and Jankowski saying they think he can be the best player in the draft down the road.

Kid is tall but thin. Was poised in interviews. Apparently Weisbrod really liked when he saw him live. Flames interviewed him 3 times and he had an idea they were interested, but wasn't sure when he'd go in the draft.

Personally, I think it's risky to take a kid out of a second tier HS league just because it's hard to put his talent in proper context. I also liked Teuvo Teravainen a bit more when the Flames are at 14. We'll see how he does in Dubuque next year though.

[dino7c]

I can see why people are disappointing....dropping down and going totally off the board but the fact is nobody knows about any of these guys

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Metro Gnome

Flames and Jankowski saying they think he can be the best player in the draft down the road.

Kid is tall but thin. Was poised in interviews. Apparently Weisbrod really liked when he saw him live. Flames interviewed him 3 times and he had an idea they were interested, but wasn't sure when he'd go in the draft.

Personally, I think it's risky to take a kid out of a second tier HS league just because it's hard to put his talent in proper context. I also liked Teuvo Teravainen a bit more when the Flames are at 14. We'll see how he does in Dubuque next year though.

He was playing in a tourny in 2011 with players 3-4 years older than him. Still he was a standout with his play.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by moon

I can't say I am surprised about at the names of people overrating and rushing to spin this pick.

Was wondering when you'd show up.

I'm neither overrating nor spinning the pick. The spin is coming from guys like flamesaresmokin and Lt.Spears who, as usual, don't let their own ignorance get in the way of a good negative spin.

You guys are so completely off the rails that you actually think a neutral opinion of "I don't know him so I'll reserve judgement at this time" constitutes overrating the pick or applying a positive spin.

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Lt.Spears]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Nope, but I am not the one losing my poop over it.

Then call out the ones saying he is going to be our future #1 and this was an excellent pick.

Yeesh, just because i think we picked the wrong guy and moved the wrong way means im the wrong one even though 99% of this board knows nothing about Jankowski.

[Spinach]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Well, at least Dubuque has among the best jerseys in hockey.

Nice. The logo reminds me of the old Cleveland Barons' one with the gothic lettering.

Anyhow, as surprised as I am about taking Jankowski, I'm sincerely interested in whether there were better choices at 21 overall. Let's forget for the moment that the Flames had the 14th pick. For me, Maata would be the obvious name, but I didn't watch him (or Jankowski) play, so I'm just going to say I like the sound of Jankowski's potential upside better.

I'm more interested in how some of you who watch these prospects might have preferred at 21.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by moon

What makes this guy anymore likely to be a first line center than guys like Gaunce?

This high risk high reward BS is just that BS. His high reward is no more higher than say Gaunce, the Finnish kid, Maata etc. Its fine to like the pick but his potential is not higher than other kids that went before or around him which is why he was picked where he was.



You mean like Caged Great who is acting much more like an expert than anyone but since he is saying ridiculously positive things I guess people won't whine about that.



I can't say I am surprised about at the names of people overrating and rushing to spin this pick.

Look everyone the MOON showed up.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by moon

I can't say I am surprised about at the names of people overrating and rushing to spin this pick.

I'm surprised you'd show up and be negative. That's just as much a shocker

[moon]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Actually by all accounts it sounds like this kid is much more of a project then those other players named and that he is much more high risk/ high reward.

He certainly seems more high risk but not sure what makes him more high reward than other guys at his draft position.

What about him makes him more likely to be a #1 center than say Gaunce or Teravainen? What makes him more likely to be an impact player than Maata?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

How many times in the first round has an NHL GM stood up athe podium and said "From xyz High School, .... are proud to select..."???!!!

I know I've seen US High School players drafted before. Also, other players in a similar situation (looking to play for an NCAA school and not able to play in the CHL to keep their eligibility) have been drafted from the AJHL and BCJHL before. I don't know if there's much difference between those leagues and where Jankowski is playing.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

My god are you ever such a whiny little bitch.

And we all know what you mean by this comment. You are crying because people have the audacity to disagree with YOU. Never mind that you are one of the most ignorant fans I've ever seen on this forum.

I'm not going to rush to judge the kid because, like you, I have no clue what he is about. But the Flames do, and that is worth giving him a chance. How about we reconvene in the future when we've had a chance to watch and judge him ourselves? Or do you just prefer to jump to conclusions based in ignorance?

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but your ability to make personal attacks and get away with it is unparalleled on this site.

Congratulations, Sir.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Lt.Spears

Then call out the ones saying he is going to be our future #1 and this was an excellent pick.

Yeesh, just because i think we picked the wrong guy and moved the wrong way means im the wrong one even though 99% of this board knows nothing about Jankowski.

You've done a marvelous job avoiding my question. You spun the question back on me and I actually answered, so... a third time.... have you seen either player play, for even one minute?

[Stay Golden]

I feel somewhat cheated with the Flames passing over so many ranked skilled players. I do no like the idea of the Flames having the 14th pick in thie hands and instead end up selecting a very unproven player ranked middle of he 2nd round

Reminds me of Sutter taking another project playing not against whl, ohl, qmj talent. Chucko.

[sureLoss]

I have no idea how this pick is going to turn out.

I am scared and excited about this pick at the same time.

Jankowski is going to be the pick that defines Feaster and Wisebrod's tenures in the Flames organizations.

[calumniate]

Aww moon did you have to moon up this thread really?

By that I mean just try to stay on topic plz

[Lobotroth]

Originally Posted by Lt.Spears

Then call out the ones saying he is going to be our future #1 and this was an excellent pick.

Yeesh, just because i think we picked the wrong guy and moved the wrong way means im the wrong one even though 99% of this board knows nothing about Jankowski.

Guess I'll get in on this ######ation:

Why "call out" people who are just being optimistic? That's like telling someone who is smiling to stop smiling.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by moon

You mean like Caged Great who is acting much more like an expert than anyone but since he is saying ridiculously positive things I guess people won't whine about that.

Unlike a lot of people, I am extremely thorough when scouting for the CPHL draft, and had him rated as a 10/10 on my list and tried to trade to get him (didn't think he'd go in the 1st round in the CPHL draft) and did not get him.

However, for pure upside, he has as much upside as any forward in the draft, and perhaps more than some of the bigger names. He's a bit of an unknown due to his size change and will have to fill out, but he's basically as good offensively as John Gaudreau is and is both a good playmaker and has a good shot. If he figures out how to use his size, he could easily be in the same class as Jamie Benn.

That's why I am so thrilled with this pick because I do know a good amount about him, and was mentioning him months ago as a good potential player.

It's not like I'm just waving the pom poms just because. He could very well be the 1st line Center that we've been looking for for 20 years

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

My god are you ever such a whiny little bitch.

And we all know what you mean by this comment. You are crying because people have the audacity to disagree with YOU. Never mind that you are one of the most ignorant fans I've ever seen on this forum.

I'm not going to rush to judge the kid because, like you, I have no clue what he is about. But the Flames do, and that is worth giving him a chance. How about we reconvene in the future when we've had a chance to watch and judge him ourselves? Or do you just prefer to jump to conclusions based in ignorance?

You're already giving us your opinion of the pick by isolating only the negative comments. You tell everyone you're neutral and then attack posters on one side of the discussion. Typical.