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Old 10-06-2012, 05:29 AM   #221
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I loved the Ward interview, especially his take on fighting really refreshing to hear a stance that was articulated so well.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:56 AM   #222
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The more I hear Ward speak, the more I hope the Flames do everything possible to keep him around for a long time.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:51 AM   #223
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My guesses for what happens today, I am assuming no injuries will keep someone off the roster.

Abbotsford

Goaltenders (2) - Irving, Taylor
Defense (8) - Breen, Brodie, Callahan, Lamb, McCarthy, McKelvie, Pisklula, Tuzzolino
Forwards (13) - Aliu, Baertschi, Bouma, Byron, Eddy, Horak, Kolanos, Laing, Nemisz, Reinhart, Street, Sylvester, Walter

Utah

Goaltenders (1) - Brust
Defensemen (2) - Martin, McKenzie
Forwards (6) - Bancks, Estoclet, Ferland, Howse, Patterson, Ruegsegger

Loaned elsewhere

Forwards (2) - Cameron, Wahl

If injuries keep anyone out of the opening day lineup I expect to see Bancks, Escloet & Patterson (in order) to be the top 3 "call ups" up front and McKenzie to be the first brought up on the backend.
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Old 10-06-2012, 09:31 AM   #224
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They can't be sending Ferland to Utah. The ECHL is where players go to rot.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:06 AM   #225
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The Flames don't use the ECHL to send their players to rot, Troy believes that the ECHL is a good place to get confidence and play decent competition, not a punishment. It's a numbers game. That being said, doubtful Ferland gets sent to ECHL.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:24 AM   #226
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They can't be sending Ferland to Utah. The ECHL is where players go to rot.
if his conditioning isn't up to par, which it doesn't sound like it is, he will most definitely be sent to the ECHL. Ward uses it to help conditioning and improve a players confidence. If they play well there he will give them a chance in Abbotsford, he did that alot last year. Also as a 1st year pro starting a season during a lockout, the ECHL will have better competition than in the past, much like the AHL will.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:37 AM   #227
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if his conditioning isn't up to par, which it doesn't sound like it is, he will most definitely be sent to the ECHL. Ward uses it to help conditioning and improve a players confidence. If they play well there he will give them a chance in Abbotsford, he did that alot last year. Also as a 1st year pro starting a season during a lockout, the ECHL will have better competition than in the past, much like the AHL will.
There's more to consider about what makes a good hockey player than just line drills.

From what I've heard, in actual play, Ferland has done an adequate job.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:42 AM   #228
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Ferland is a long shot at best to every see NHL ice. If his conditioning isn't up to snuff he is even a more long shot. Perfect guy to go down to the ECHL - he's years away.
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Just waiting on the cuts to be made. Ward was very careful not to say when they were going to release that information.

I hope it's soon though.
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They can't be sending Ferland to Utah. The ECHL is where players go to rot.
In a year where the team is extra deep due to legit NHLers being there (Baertschi, Brodie) and possible NHLers being there (Bouma, Nemisz, Horak, Aliu) a rookie like Ferland might have to start in the ECHL. There's no problem with that IMO and it certainly wouldn't be an indication they are giving up on him or letting him "rot" as you say.
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Here are the cuts guys: http://www.abbotsfordheat.com/news/?article_id=154
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:13 PM   #236
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With 31 players remaining, does that mean there are still 8 cuts to come, or are AHL teams allowed to carry more than 23?
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For those too lazy or unwilling to click on the link:

Sent to Utah (ECHL):
Bryan Cameron
Ryan Howse
James Martin
Gaelan Patterson
Nick Tuzzolino
Mitch Wahl

Released from Try Out:
Dave Cowan -D
Alex Evin - G
Jaime Fritsch - D
Mark Isherwood - D
Jordan Kremyr - LW
Peter Merth - D
Garry Nunn - RW
Grant Rollheiser - G
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #238
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31 remaining in camp:

Goaltenders: (3)
Danny Taylor
Barry Brust
Leland Irving

Defense: (9)
Chris Breen
Joe Callahan
TJ Brodie
Brady Lamb
Zach McKelvie
Drew MacKenzie
Steve McCarthy
Joe Piskula
Dennis Urban

Forwards: (19)
Adam Estoclet
Ben Street
Lance Bouma
Greg Nemisz
Ben Walter
Roman Horak
Tyler Ruegsegger
Akim Aliu
Sven Baertschi
Krys Kolanos
Quintin Laing
Paul Byron
Dustin Sylvester
David Eddy
Max Reinhart
Carter Bancks
Michael Ferland
Kael Mouillierat
Brett Olson

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For those too lazy or unwilling to click on the link:

Sent to Utah (ECHL):
Bryan Cameron
Ryan Howse
James Martin
Gaelan Patterson
Nick Tuzzolino
Mitch Wahl

Released from Try Out:
Dave Cowan -D
Alex Evin - G
Jaime Fritsch - D
Mark Isherwood - D
Jordan Kremyr - LW
Peter Merth - D
Garry Nunn - RW
Grant Rollheiser - G
No real surprises from what I've read.

Cameron - needs to rediscover his scoring touch

Howse - ditto and reported in poor shape again

Martin - border line talent?

Patterson - works hard but it's not enough

Tuzzolino - ?

Wahl - in the dog house

McCarthy signed to what appears to be an AHL contract for now. He looks to be in much the same situation as Kolanos was last year and may be useful for the Flames if we ever get started.
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