[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

I said it a year ago. The day that Rasmus said that comment-- he was gone. CC was ####ing pissed. All of the front office was.

Gonna regret posting this and we're going to have to immediatly agree to disagree because I hate playing insider but that's only kinda true. They were mad but because that he said it publicly, not his general thoughts.

Craig Conroy, Brad Pascal, Jarome Iginla and the management team are competitors, same as Rasmus Andersson. They don't want to lose and don't show up to the rink to lose. Don't know if you saw Conroy in the press box during the Canes win following the press box but he was smiling and cheering on the goals. Some guys were upset, not by his thoughts, but because it's not good to take shots at your home team fans. Hockey fans aren't exactly the most nuanced of thinkers. Anderrson's mentality if completely different from a fan. There's no reason to confuse the two or be offended by it. Conroy and Andersson have a really good relationship and any thought that that was some final straw "That's it!" moment are just not true I believe, not from what I've seen and heard.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He was playing quite well before the trade on pace for a career high in goals, close to 50 points and on the positive side of +/-. He's struggled with the Knights but really the entire team is struggling. I don't understand why some of you love to crap on ex-Flames so much. Drafted and developed Flame who enjoyed his time here, has nothing bad to say about the organization or city and it's like some of you are giddy that he's struggling in his next stop.

Some people are slaves to jfresh's statistical analysis; they're interesting and provide a different light on the situation but you shouldn't worship at their feet. I've seen nothing but praise for Kevin Bahl but his Wins Above Replacement weren't great when he arrived here and got worse by the team Conroy signed him to a new deal.

Interesting and definitely a good analysis tool but not gospel.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

There's also a difference between cheering for losses vs begrudgingly accepting the fact that losses are the price that must be paid to get an elite franchise player in the draft.

That said, no one is expecting players to give less than their full effort, or do anything other than play to win. No one is asking players to be ok with losing.

So maybe it was just a case of him not choosing his words carefully enough. As a Flames player, it's not ok to say that 10% of Flames fans aren't real fans.

Kinda ironic right now considering Ras playing poorly now is helping a Flames draft pick

[Shazam]

I wonder if the injury from that accident affected more than it seemed.

[musth]

Originally Posted by Shazam

I wonder if the injury from that accident affected more than it seemed.

seems like hes certainly regressed since then

[dino7c]

4-1 L for Ras and the boys tonight....pick could be better than expected

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

4-1 L for Ras and the boys tonight....pick could be better than expected

Except no one will pass them.

[InternationalVillager]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Some guys were upset, not by his thoughts, but because it's not good to take shots at your home team fans.

Did I say something different?

My "gone" comment was more from his POV. He wasn't extending.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Except no one will pass them.

True but them not winning the division by default would be huge pick wise

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Did I say something different?

My "gone" comment was more from his POV. He wasn't extending.

Doesn’t really make sense (that the day he said that he decided to leave) or line up with what I’ve heard either. Maybe your info is bad.