BC Lags Behind Other Provinces in Life Satisfaction

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

The Musqueam agreement seems to be happening to create a framework that will avoid court decisions like the Cowichan decision causing the mess and confusion it has.

On the surface, getting ahead of things and actually creating legal agreements and defining title rights is exactly what I'd hope for to avoid another court decision oopsie moment.

Though a lot is still to figure out, I'm not sure the federal agreement is the self-infliction you think it is.

The alarmist nature of there positions and posting is also comically hypocritical.

Sounds like the Canadian federal government went off and signed a rights agreement that says the Musqueam has rights and title within their asserted territory which covers massive swath of BC. But they did NOT bother to say what lands or waterways and gave no clarity there, which seems crazy to me but hey, investment certainty for you. And they also did NOT bother to consult any other Bands/Nations who also have asserted territory in the exact same area (which is why the Squamish nation are already upset and vowed to fight this, again more certainty for you). 23:00 in the second video.

Also sounds like the Canadian government went and declared on it's own without being forced that UNDRIP is now the minimum standard through which this agreement will be guided. The basis on which your described "oppsie" court decision happened under and that Eby himself is backtracking on after realizing his mistake. Starts around 43:00 in the first video.

I mean, this lawyer who has had experience with Aboriginal Law, has worked for the NDP and First Nations could be lying though. Or maybe he is some crazy racist, and alarmist and utterly incompetent or whatever else you want to call him.

I'm definitely not a lawyer and I'm just going off of what this apparently experienced expert and lawyer in the field is saying.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Sounds like the Canadian federal government went off and signed a rights agreement that says the Musqueam has rights and title within their asserted territory which covers massive swath of BC. But they did NOT bother to say what lands or waterways and gave no clarity there, which seems crazy to me but hey, investment certainty for you. And they also did NOT bother to consult any other Bands/Nations who also have asserted territory in the exact same area (which is why the Squamish nation are already upset and vowed to fight this, again more certainty for you). 23:00 in the second video.

I work for the provincial government and pretty big part of my job involves consulting with First Nations on various things and some people might be surprised that it isn't uncommon to have friction between nations when it comes to historical claims and consultation areas. It would be inappropriate to point out specifics, but there have been times I was at the table where one nation didn't appreciate the presence of another at the same table. Some of it goes back to pre-colonial times and some of it related to post-colonial issues. It's one of the main reasons why archaeology has become so important when there are land disturbances.

It's often joked that 120% of BC is claimed when you consider overlapping claims and I think the vast majority accept that. Every once in a while it becomes an issue though. It's really no different than anywhere else in the world in that respect (before the advent of nation states, much of Europe was a checkerboard of nationalities with jostling around for example), it's just never really been settled here.