2022 Blue Jays Season Thread - Page 118 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Roof-Daddy · 06-17-2022, 02:31 PM

lol apparently the Jays were very close to signing Verlander this past off season.

Houston offered the same amount of money and so he chose to stay there instead.

Bah! I feel like I'd better off having never known that FFS

He'd be a Jay instead of Kikuchi......so yeah, hopefully Kikuchi figures his crap out.

Jiri Hrdina · 06-17-2022, 05:46 PM

Run little man run!

flamingred89 · 06-17-2022, 06:49 PM

Le sigh. Thornton going to Thornton. But let's be real. No one has a shot against the Yankees. Just a perfectly well oiled machine right now. Elite pitching. Elite hitting. Clutch AB's. Just a great ball club. And from where? You look at their roster and you think playoff team. Not apparently the greatest team that has ever played ball. Just gross.

KelVarnsen · 06-17-2022, 06:50 PM

Sigh

flamingred89 · 06-17-2022, 06:52 PM

So I mean. Charlie will not let Stripling go through the order again. God forbid someone do that. But let's keep Thornton in the game to let the Yanks bat around with nobody out. #logic.

KootenayFlamesFan · 06-17-2022, 06:53 PM

Who knew throwing fastballs down the middle could turn out badly?

Hockey · 06-17-2022, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingred89

Le sigh. Thornton going to Thornton. But let's be real. No one has a shot against the Yankees. Just a perfectly well oiled machine right now. Elite pitching. Elite hitting. Clutch AB's. Just a great ball club. And from where? You look at their roster and you think playoff team. Not apparently the greatest team that has ever played ball. Just gross.

Yankees fans were pretty much disgusted with their off season and nobody was really predicting them to be contenders. Then this happens. Greatest team ever it looks like.

Sometimes when I check their box scores I think oh good they are 3 in the 8th. Check again 30 minutes later and they up 3.

Mathgod · 06-17-2022, 07:16 PM

Jays rotation is in really great shape. I was a fool for thinking otherwise.

flamingred89 · 06-17-2022, 08:34 PM

I’m fully in awe of the Yankees right now. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team like that. I remember when the Mariners won 120 games(or something like that) but everyone knew they weren’t that good. And got beat handedly in the playoffs by the Yankees. But this Yankee team is on a whole other level. Unreal.

bluejays · 06-18-2022, 09:04 AM

Yanks are something else. On paper they’re not THAT good but they’re playing super well to say the least so it’s definitely admirable.

flames_fan_down_under · 06-18-2022, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Jays rotation is in really great shape. I was a fool for thinking otherwise.

Oh you're just a troll. Glad we got that cleared up.

Roof-Daddy · 06-18-2022, 09:33 AM

The league has adjusted to Gausman it seems, and hopefully he can counter adjust.

Either that or he's tipping pitches, because they hardly ever bite on the splitter anymore. They are making him pitch up in the zone and then jumping on it. It's a little scary to be honest. Hopefully he can solve the issue, maybe needs to pound the fastball low in the zone for strikes to make them swing at the low stuff? I dunno

Kikuchi is also very frustrating, because the talent is there and it looked he'd turned the "Robbie Ray" corner in May but now he's regressed again. He's had two starts against the Yanks this season and been very good in them, but if he's not on his A game tomorrow they will #### him up badly.

Stripling has been lights out as a part time spot starter, he's done a great job. The Yankees got to him, not really surprising. They are on a historical type run right now.

Really need the win today with Manoah going. Hope the bats can do something.

Really sucks to have the team on pace for 90+ wins but feel like they are garbage because of what the Yankees are doing right now.

Roof-Daddy · 06-18-2022, 09:36 AM

Also, why can't the Jays front office build a decent bullpen?

My god even the Orioles bullpen looks dominant now. They clearly don't want to spend big money on a bullpen, and I get that....but holy crap they need to get better at developing bullpen arms if they aren't going to spend money on it.

flames_fan_down_under · 06-18-2022, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Also, why can't the Jays front office build a decent bullpen?

My god even the Orioles bullpen looks dominant now. They clearly don't want to spend big money on a bullpen, and I get that....but holy crap they need to get better at developing bullpen arms if they aren't going to spend money on it.

Very true. Their process seems to be: wait until it becomes crystal clear that there is a need in the bullpen, then try to acquire either reclamation projects/guys whose value has cratered. I still love the Cimber trade but the pen needs strikeout ability. I am finding the complete implosion of Richards to be particularly frustrating as he was incredible for the Jays last year. Essentially they have 4 somewhat reliable arms in the pen: Phelps, Garcia, Mayza, Romano. That is not enough. But it has been somewhat obvious that there has been in a need in the 'pen for a while now.

Roof-Daddy · 06-18-2022, 11:20 AM

At least Moreno looks legit so far.

They really need to get him playing other positions, like 2nd/3rd and corner outfield until they resolve the catcher log jam. Especially with guys like Chapman and Bo banged up.

KootenayFlamesFan · 06-18-2022, 11:26 AM

Won't be seeing Ryu play again for a long time. If ever.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1538189134908600320

flamingred89 · 06-18-2022, 11:29 AM

With how great Moreno has looked to start his big league career I think the thing that has surprised me the most is how bloody fast he is. Some of the sprint speed numbers they were throwing out yesterday is bananas. And he’s a catcher?! Fastest catcher alive one would think.

flamingred89 · 06-18-2022, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Won't be seeing Ryu play again for a long time. If ever.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1538189134908600320

That’s a bummer. He was lights out in his first season with the Jays and the biggest reason they made the playoffs that year. Last year was a rollercoaster with some brutal lows near the end of the season. He seemed to be getting more consistent this season but you could tell something was off.

Well liked and seemed like a genuinely good dude. His relationship with Manoah was special and I hope he sticks around the team through this process to help mentor.

From a business perspective this really helps the Jays as it frees up 20 million to really pursue more top end talent in the rotation as well as chip in for the big contract they will need to dole out soon.

Roof-Daddy · 06-18-2022, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingred89

With how great Moreno has looked to start his big league career I think the thing that has surprised me the most is how bloody fast he is. Some of the sprint speed numbers they were throwing out yesterday is bananas. And he’s a catcher?! Fastest catcher alive one would think.

Yeah, he's a pure athlete.

They converted him from SS way back.

Weird decision as that is also a premium position, makes you wonder if he would have cut it there with how athletic he is.

Roof-Daddy · 06-18-2022, 11:57 AM

I predict the Jays add another SP now, someone who is still under control for at least next season as well.

Probably somebody VERY good too. I'd expect to lose Groshans and one of our catchers in the trade, possibly a prospect starting pitcher as well, and hopefully they get some bullpen help thrown into the trade as well.

Castillo or Montas perhaps?