The 2016 US American Election Thread

[wittynickname]

Well in other news, reasons why Trump's rhetoric is an issue from just today.

In Virginia, armed Trump supporters "protesting" outside of Clinton campaign headquarters.

http://www.newsplex.com/content/news...397039141.html

Parks said that his firearm is legal, and that he had no ill intention by carrying it.

"We're not a threat to anybody, the only threat is ignorance, and ignorance breeds fear," he said.

The irony of that last statement is just golden.


And in more terrifying news, this time in Kansas, the FBI/police foil a plot of domestic terrorism, three men planning to bomb a mosque the day after the election.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Fed...397095961.html

Beall said the men planned to park vehicles full of explosives at all four corners of the Garden City apartment complex. The men said they wanted to "wake people up".

Beall said the men wrote a manifesto, which they wanted published after the bombing.

According to an affidavit, the were a part of a group called the Kansas Security Force and the Crusaders.

"These are militia groups whose members support and espouse sovereign citizen, anti-government, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant extremist beliefs," read the affidavit.

I've hit a point where I'm legitimately concerned for the safety of voters on election day, and that's a huge problem.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Really, I'm the one who resorted to insults, not initially anyway, I'll throw them back when they are directed at me.

Let's start with lowering taxes, seems like a pretty good idea, do you not agree?

Your first post childishly called Clinton "Shillary", so don't try to say other people started it.

Lower taxes for whom? At what cost? Trump wants more tax cuts for rich guys like him, and his programs wil only increase their massive deficit.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

And she's been involved with drug trafficking, murder, theft ect ect.......

Bankruptcy isn't illegal, same with losing money. Who knows about the taxes but it wouldn't surprise me. You don't become a billionaire several times over playing by the rules. Trump is shady but Hillary is worse.

She's never been involved in murder, theft, etc. If you believe that, there's no point in continuing the conversation. It's absurd, ridiculous and honestly, without hyperbole, speaks to both your intellect and gullibility

[Senator Clay Davis]

What past? The one from Alex Jones and company? Is she a lizardperson?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

How many times do I have to say it? I'll try in all caps this time for you.

I'M NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER, I'M ANTI-HILLARY. WHAT IS SO HARD TO COMPUTE ABOUT MY POSITION FOR YA? DID THE LEFTIST MEDIA NOT BEAT IT INTO YOUR HEAD, SO YOU DON'T THINK IT'S AN OPTION.

Can you put together a reasonably well sourced argument on why you believe Hillary is a criminal and why she shouldn't be president. Then please make a case for who, if you could, you would vote for and how that vote would be better for America then voting for Hillary.

All you have done is spout rhetoric that Hillary is a criminal and that you are anti Hillary. That isn't even a reason why you are anti-Hillary

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

What past? The one from Alex Jones and company? Is she a lizardperson?

And a Freemason!!

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Have you seen the responses I'm getting in this thread? I was just pointing out Hillary's past is worse. Thank you for not helping tie the knot with this gang lynching.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Drak

So what if it isn't illegal? You said he was a smart business man. And he didn't just become a billionaire. He was gifted millions from his father.


As far as your rants about Hillary being a criminal. We're dealing in facts here, not conspiracy theories. How about you do the same?

Where? I'm pretty sure I said that about O'Leary. Anyway, yeah he was given money by his father, but you don't become as successful as Trump without at least being a tad crafty, he could have pissed it all away just as easily.

What did Hillary do? Hitched her wagon to Bill, somehow she's self made though?

Have looked into any of the accusations against her and hubby Bill? Likely not, there's overwhelming evidence and allegations against them, is it all just made up? I think not.

[Senator Clay Davis]

If Trump invested the money he inherited from his dad and earned the average market rate, he would be even richer than he currently is, which is tough to gauge without his taxes and with his company in a deep decline right now.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

She's never been involved in murder, theft, etc. If you believe that, there's no point in continuing the conversation. It's absurd, ridiculous and honestly, without hyperbole, speaks to both your intellect and gullibility

Glad you settled it. HAHAHA! Proclaim your victory and move on.

The reality is neither of them will be good for the USA.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Well in other news, reasons why Trump's rhetoric is an issue from just today.

In Virginia, armed Trump supporters "protesting" outside of Clinton campaign headquarters.

http://www.newsplex.com/content/news...397039141.html




The irony of that last statement is just golden.


And in more terrifying news, this time in Kansas, the FBI/police foil a plot of domestic terrorism, three men planning to bomb a mosque the day after the election.

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Fed...397095961.html


I've hit a point where I'm legitimately concerned for the safety of voters on election day, and that's a huge problem.

And Trump keeps pointing his people to monitor "certain areas", and we obviously know what that's code for.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Drak

That's not playing the victim, that's pointing out reality. Nice try though, you must play that card a lot.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Have looked into any of the accusations against her and hubby Bill? Likely not, there's overwhelming evidence and allegations against them, is it all just made up? I think not.

If you think that any of the accusations are credible, please post the ones you think are most legitimate and damaging, including citing the evidence in them from the best available sources. (Also, be prepared to have those sources and arguments contested, and don't take it personally!)

Honestly I've spent more time than I should on some of the conspiracy sites in the last few weeks, and I have yet to see anything that I would take seriously. It's exhausting to go down these various rabbit-holes and find them based on unfounded sources or ridiculous leaps of imagination (like the Scalia assassination theory).

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Where? I'm pretty sure I said that about O'Leary. Anyway, yeah he was given money by his father, but you don't become as successful as Trump without at least being a tad crafty, he could have pissed it all away just as easily.

What did Hillary do? Hitched her wagon to Bill, somehow she's self made though?

Have looked into any of the accusations against her and hubby Bill? Likely not, there's overwhelming evidence and allegations against them, is it all just made up? I think not.

Oh God.

1) Hillary isn't running her campaign with the only quantifier as being successful business person.

2) The evidence suddenly disappears when you look into outside of conspiracy sites. No there isn't able evidence. Most of what you've read is made up

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Where? I'm pretty sure I said that about O'Leary. Anyway, yeah he was given money by his father, but you don't become as successful as Trump without at least being a tad crafty, he could have pissed it all away just as easily.

What did Hillary do? Hitched her wagon to Bill, somehow she's self made though?

Have looked into any of the accusations against her and hubby Bill? Likely not, there's overwhelming evidence and allegations against them, is it all just made up? I think not.

Okay, no. Stop. Just literally stop.

Whether you agree or not, before she was ever married to Bill, she was incredibly accomplished. To act as if she was just the Little Woman in the relationship is unbelievably insulting.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2016/


Watch this, if you genuinely believe Hillary Clinton just "hitched her wagon" to Bill. This gives an incredibly detailed, non-partisan chronological history of both Hillary and Trump, from their childhoods, through college, early careers, etc. Hillary is far from perfect, but she is incredibly accomplished, and we haven't had any candidate with this much experience in decades. If she was a white guy, with the same exact resume, this race would be an absolute mockery of a landslide.

Again, these candidates are graded on a gigantic curve. Trump has just as much a shady past as Clinton, without the public service points to add to his credit. He's merely abused the system to make money for himself, while leaving tons of "little guys" in his wake, floundering.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If Trump invested the money he inherited from his dad and earned the average market rate, he would be even richer than he currently is, which is tough to gauge without his taxes and with his company in a deep decline right now.

OK, so what has Hillary done showing that she's fit to be the president? Married into it?

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Well in other news, reasons why Trump's rhetoric is an issue from just today.

Yeah, these sorts of reports are very alarming, particularly the Kansas one. I would hate to be living in the US right now and need to legitimately worry about being in the path of reprisals. For the sake of all Americans (and particularly yourself and others on this forum), I hope the FBI is able to thwart all of these before the election.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

OK, so what has Hillary done showing that she's fit to be the president? Married into it?

Read the constitution. He hasn't, clearly.

[RougeUnderoos]

There have been a lot of accusations aimed at the Clintons over the years. If only some wealthy, powerful, and influential people would would go after them, try to defeat them, or simply just challenge them, we'd hear the real truth.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

Okay, no. Stop. Just literally stop.

Whether you agree or not, before she was ever married to Bill, she was incredibly accomplished. To act as if she was just the Little Woman in the relationship is unbelievably insulting.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/the-choice-2016/


Watch this, if you genuinely believe Hillary Clinton just "hitched her wagon" to Bill. This gives an incredibly detailed, non-partisan chronological history of both Hillary and Trump, from their childhoods, through college, early careers, etc. Hillary is far from perfect, but she is incredibly accomplished, and we haven't had any candidate with this much experience in decades. If she was a white guy, with the same exact resume, this race would be an absolute mockery of a landslide.

Again, these candidates are graded on a gigantic curve. Trump has just as much a shady past as Clinton, without the public service points to add to his credit. He's merely abused the system to make money for himself, while leaving tons of "little guys" in his wake, floundering.

Oh so he built his name off her?

She's a career politician, maybe going a different route would benefit the country this time. Hard to say, Obama didn't come as advertised.