2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[codynw]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Try Jordan Staal. Signed through 2023 and 0 pts to start. And coming off a crummy season.

I admittedly don't watch many Canes games, but isn't Staal at least a good defensive player?

When Skinner isn't scoring he's completely useless.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Skinner actually improves size on the wings, assuming he's replacing Hudler he's a bit bigger, and much stronger. He also makes us faster as he's a better skater than Hudler.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Skinner isn't any kind of improvement over Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler

Having Skinner with Backlund and Bennett is another small line.

Even if you keep Hudler and add Skinner, it doesn't address the lack of size that is problematic for Calgary right now.

Skinner doesn't do anything for this club but take up Cap Space.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Gaudreau - Monahan - Skinner isn't any kind of improvement over Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler

Having Skinner with Backlund and Bennett is another small line.

Even if you keep Hudler and add Skinner, it doesn't address the lack of size that is problematic for Calgary right now.

Skinner doesn't do anything for this club but take up Cap Space.

Eh, we could bring back Byron and then be well on our way to being Montreal west, just without the goaltending. It's so crazy it just might work.

[Poe969]

we should also see if any other team has small injury prone wingers with over paid contracts and see if we could swap some of the "bigger slower" guys for them. While they're at it, maybe trade our first rounder for a second and a third round pick.

Skill is what this team needs. Speed is good and all but useless if the wrong player has it. We need guys who can pull the trigger and score who also have size. It won't come cheap but it's what this team needs.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by codynw

SV% and SH% are completely 100% unrelated to each other though. Look at SH% individually. That's a useful stat. Adding SH% and SV% together tells me nothing.

I bet everyone on Montreal has a high PDO. Are they "lucky"? Or do they have Carey Price on their team?

I agree with that. It is flawed since it puts such an emphasis on sv percentage, and goal-tending is volatile.

Looking at each stat separately is the best way to go about things.

For a quick reference to see how a player is trending though (especially on those teams that don't have Price in net) gives you a quick reference, especially when somebody is 6th last in the league in a given stat.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Gaudreau - Monahan - Skinner isn't any kind of improvement over Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler

Having Skinner with Backlund and Bennett is another small line.

Even if you keep Hudler and add Skinner, it doesn't address the lack of size that is problematic for Calgary right now.

Skinner doesn't do anything for this club but take up Cap Space.

You're confusing size (height) with size (strength)

Yes Hudler is 5'10 and Skinner is 5'11.
But Hudler is 183lbs and Skinner is 200lbs.

That is a significant jump in functional size. One is undersized, the other has better useful size than the average player. It's close to the physical difference between Hudler and a guy like Crosby.

[adc]

Skinner sure doesn't play like he is 200 lbs. especially since his head injuries (which is understandable.)

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

You're confusing size (height) with size (strength)

Yes Hudler is 5'10 and Skinner is 5'11.
But Hudler is 183lbs and Skinner is 200lbs.

That is a significant jump in functional size. One is undersized, the other has better useful size than the average player. It's close to the physical difference between Hudler and a guy like Crosby.

This is "my dad can beat up your dad" type stuff.

Wideman is shorter than Gio and Brodie, but heavier than both of them.

Brodie is lighter than Gio and Wideman but taller than both of them.

Giordano is taller than Wideman but Heavier than Brodie.

Who is the most physical player?

Answer: The player who displays the most physicality on the ice.

In your mind, adding a player who is 5'11 over a player who is 5'10 might address the size deficiency of the Flames but for me and I'm going to assume Flames management, it doesn't.

[Harry Lime]

Hamilton doesn't play a physical game at all, but at the same time no body is pushing him around. If he works on his positioning and timing, he can be very effective defensively because no one is going through him.

Skinner has some of the same characteristics. He doesn't attack someone with the puck, but he's not a pushover either. When he has the puck, there's a better chance that he holds onto it just because a 200+ pound player doesn't get brushed out easily.

He's not a dump and chase player either, so maybe he has some of what Calgary is lacking.

[sureLoss]

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Friedman: Shame because I really like him as a person. #Flyers have been trying to deal Luke Schenn for awhile and there just aren't takers.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Friedman: Shame because I really like him as a person. #Flyers have been trying to deal Luke Schenn for awhile and there just aren't takers.

Flyers also desperately need help on D. Schenn's contract expires in a year. I would do Backlund and Russell for Schenn and Simmonds.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Hamilton doesn't play a physical game at all, but at the same time no body is pushing him around. If he works on his positioning and timing, he can be very effective defensively because no one is going through him.

Skinner has some of the same characteristics. He doesn't attack someone with the puck, but he's not a pushover either. When he has the puck, there's a better chance that he holds onto it just because a 200+ pound player doesn't get brushed out easily.

He's not a dump and chase player either, so maybe he has some of what Calgary is lacking.

Yep, you're bang on. If Skinner was 6'5, i'd feel differently, but we're talking about 10-12 lbs and an inch.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey
Friedman: Shame because I really like him as a person. #Flyers have been trying to deal Luke Schenn for awhile and there just aren't takers.

Wow. What a bizarre situation the Flyers have created for themselves. The forwards are fine, the defense is a complete mess. But they have three high end D prospects in junior, at least two years away, three decent D prospects in the AHL, maybe a year away, and a good D prospect in college.

If someone were able to stomach Schenn for a year (he's a UFA), then one could probably victimize the Flyers for a pretty high end future defenseman.

Two horrible anchors in MacDonald and Vinny, as well.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

You're confusing size (height) with size (strength)

Yes Hudler is 5'10 and Skinner is 5'11.
But Hudler is 183lbs and Skinner is 200lbs.

That is a significant jump in functional size. One is undersized, the other has better useful size than the average player. It's close to the physical difference between Hudler and a guy like Crosby.

Skinner is not 200 pounds. I've seen him in person. He looks skinnier than Gaudreau. Skinner has to be bottom 5 weakest players strength wise in the NHL.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Flyers also desperately need help on D. Schenn's contract expires in a year. I would do Backlund and Russell for Schenn and Simmonds.

Doubt they give up Simmonds but that trade would be awesome. Even if we could get Brayden Schenn in the deal that would be good

[Ozy_Flame]

LA is also looking for a defenseman. Can't see Lombardi and/or Sutter hating a guy like Russell, I think he would be a solid fit on their blueline. Me thinks we'd try and go for a young RW if possible.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

LA is also looking for a defenseman. Can't see Lombardi and/or Sutter hating a guy like Russell, I think he would be a solid fit on their blueline. Me thinks we'd try and go for a young RW if possible.

Nick Shore? lol

[hockey.modern]

Be a magician Treliving, Tanner Pearson or Tyler Toffoli

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Be a magician Treliving, Tanner Pearson or Tyler Toffoli

Deal Backlund, Russell and Wotherspoon or Seiloff to LA for Tiffoli and Nolan? Dreaming I know but one can dream.

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Anaheim is in the same boat with having too many d-men and can't score.

Corey Perry for Jiri Hudler