Now I had not heard this before. JD Vance says conservative men have more testosterone than liberal men. You learn something new every day. That must be why they have the balls to stand up to Donny. Wait..........
Then on CNN, Republicans criticize LeBron's video supporting Harris. Spent 5 minutes dissing him. If that is what he wants to show and present, he pretty much has that right.
In lots of electoral models the winner of the popular vote doesn’t necessarily win the election.
When voting for an individual who actually has power? That's pretty rare. Every other republic I'm aware of that doesn't directly elect its President, the President is basically just a ceremonial position.
To not leave because it is a coup. Essentially if this scenario were to happen it would mean democracy is ending so do you refuse to leave, gain backing of the capital police force and key members of the military to maintain power?
Or alternatively if they try to stay eventually they get arrested and dragged out if they don’t have the backing of the police and military.
In either scenario that’s the military deciding.
Why would they leave peacefully at that point if it was a clear coup to grab power.
hate to say it, but you could get a video of Trump raping a 10 year old and the people supporting him wouldn't care.
The fact that he is a despicable human is priced in, and these people have accepted enough terrible behavior that to admit he is terrible is to admit what they were willing to accept (which is terrible)
Focus on
He only cares about himself.
We'll be bad for the economy
He wants to restrict rights
He'll appoint corrupt people
The people closest to him don't trust him
People can say, I want someone who cares about me, I don't want to pay his 10% tax, I don't want the government interfering in my personal choices, I don't like those people around him, General Kelly says trump fooled him too.... and they wont be admitting they were wrong for supporting him. But to admit the he is the piece of #### that everyone knew he was from the day rode a gold escalator down to spew racist garbage, would be to admit that they once supported someone anyone could have known was a piece of ####.
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Map it out for me what the last step is in this situation.
You have a clear Harris win, then delayed certification that is clearly designed to undermine the votes in democrat states, then the house picks Trump. It goes to the courts and say the courts back Trump. Are the democrats going to willingly leave power under this scenario?
The entire scenario is legal and per the constitution, apart from maybe the non-certification. If a state claims fraud but the claim is not proved or disproved can they refuse to certify? I guess it’s up to each state’s rules, and the constitution is clear that it is up to each state to decide its own rules for how EC rules get cast.
If things get escalated to the Supreme Court my guess is they say the certification date is what it is, the process is what it is, and as long as the states are following their own rules they won’t interfere. If it gets to that point then the Democrats have no legal leg to stand on and they have to accept the decision. I would expect massive civil disobedience though.
Unless there is proof of a conspiracy, then all bets are off.
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Sadly, this won't hurt Trump's chances at all. Dude is bulletproof when it comes to this stuff. His supporters love the fact that he's a reprehensible scumbag.
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LOL Paulie Walnuts is like the Yoho of the Left. Do you even vet what you post aside from falling for what you read immediately? The one links to a guy claiming to be satire and parody. And the other a guy whos bio is "to stop trump at all costs" and might as well be anyone. Hardly something news worthy or "hard hitting". You need to relax man, your getting WAY too caught up and invested in all of this LOL
When voting for an individual who actually has power? That's pretty rare. Every other republic I'm aware of that doesn't directly elect its President, the President is basically just a ceremonial position.
Not sure why the directly part is key. In a FPTP parliamentary system, votes don’t translate directly to seats. And the leader of the party that wins the most seats has a lot of power - Canadian PMs have far fewer constraints than an American president.
It’s pretty clear people only complain about electoral systems when they don’t yield a result they like. The number of Canadians I’ve seen moan about the U.S. electoral system being undemocratic while ignoring the loss of the party that won the popular vote in the last federal election proves that. The Conservatives’ loss is shrugged off with “their support is too concentrated - they should campaign better in the parts of the country where they’re weak.” Not sure why the same advice shouldn’t apply to Democrats.
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TLDR version: I was caught off guard by the fact that PA does not have in-person early voting. Which seems weird considering it's the state that will very likely determine the election winner. With such importance on its result, you would think that all possible ways of voting early would be made available to voters.
Stressed about this election? Yes. I very much am.
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LOL Paulie Walnuts is like the Yoho of the Left. Do you even vet what you post aside from falling for what you read immediately? The one links to a guy claiming to be satire and parody. And the other a guy whos bio is "to stop trump at all costs" and might as well be anyone. Hardly something news worthy or "hard hitting". You need to relax man, your getting WAY too caught up and invested in all of this LOL
The guy needs some media literacy training. If he bothered to dive a little deeper into the information he'd find it all goes back to one source, Michael Wolff, who is not a credible source of anything. Trump gave Wolff access for a book and was not happy with the outcome, not believing that a writer who employs tabloid practices would ever turn on the king of manipulating tabloids and tabloid journalists. Wolff's first book on the inner workings of the Trump admin was the last where access was granted but Wolff has continued to write salacious books about Trump. If Wolff has access to these recordings or images, produce them and make them public. Otherwise, this just comes off of more slime from an author who oozes the substance.
Ignore the media literacy side of things, posting the 736,245th instance of "This time we've got him for sure!" is pointless. But maybe that 736,246th time will be the one!
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Not sure why the directly part is key. In a FPTP parliamentary system, votes don’t translate directly to seats. And the leader of the party that wins the most seats has a lot of power - Canadian PMs have far fewer constraints than an American president.
It’s pretty clear people only complain about electoral systems when they don’t yield a result they like. The number of Canadians I’ve seen moan about the U.S. electoral system being undemocratic while ignoring the loss of the party that won the popular vote in the last federal election proves that. The Conservatives’ loss is shrugged off with “their support is too concentrated - they should campaign better in the parts of the country where they’re weak.” Not sure why the same advice shouldn’t apply to Democrats.
Fair points, but the US has only two credible parties. In the Canadian election in 2021, Libs had 33%, Cons 34%, NDP 18%, Bloc 8%, People 5%, Green 2%. A Lib and NDP coalition is 51%.
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Fair points, but the US has only two credible parties. In the Canadian election in 2021, Libs had 33%, Cons 34%, NDP 18%, Bloc 8%, People 5%, Green 2%. A Lib and NDP coalition is 51%.
Agreed. Canada's system feels more broken when the furthest right or left party gets a majority government with 35-40% of the vote.
The most annoying aspect about America's system is that the tiny states get outsized power in both the Senate and Electoral College.
