CP Mafia 3 - Super Smash Mafia - GAME OVER - Darkness Win!

[GGG]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think you're mafia, why would I tell you?

Because if I am mafia I already know who is town and don't really care what you think as I have a doctor, cop, and dayvig to kill before I worry about which people townies think are most likely town. Also you would be sharing it with all the other townies and forcing the mafia to do the same.

However, town me wants to see your logic, evaluate it, and modify my list based on it.

Mafia you would like not to share as you have to put information out there that can be evaluated as people flip

Town you should want to share information in the same way town me does. However you and I see things very differently on this front as discussed on day 2.

[formulate]

Actually, Girlysports would surprise me the least. I still think her rationale of certain actions as trying to 'confuse' or 'surprise' the mafia is super telling. As well as her propensity to hypothesize about the cults and her voting/hammer history. But that vote never got off the group floor so I guess I'm going with #2.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Thanks for that compliment I just made in reply to thread format.
In the Mafia thread it went a little different. I don't know why you want so much artistic licence. Really you are not the boss of me nor my editor. Really everyone is getting tired of your me me me me thing.
Next time don't try to be such a delta bravo and I might not turn on you.

How do we cut off the head of the factions?

[formulate]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think you're mafia, why would I tell you?

This is exactly what I'm talking about in regards to Girlysports. Withholding thoughts or information from the mafia is also withholding from the town. Why is she the only one obsessed with tiptoeing around the mafia?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by starseed

You were very active last game, and the post count says that you are active this game. However, you seem to be repeating lines from other people I suspect are mafia without adding solid scum-hunting info. This seems like a stark contrast from usual. If you wanted to build a case against GGG, why not say that he is controlling a lot in this game? Why go back to the debunked thought that he was against joining the guardians when accepting it? He stated that he was willing to join, so obviously he was given an invite.

This screams like a mafia talking point.

I did say he was controlling. I also did not say he was against joining a cult when he accepted the invite.

I'm not trying to manufacture a case against GGG. He asked who I thought was suspicious and I gave my answers. Could I be wrong? Uh yeah, without a doubt.

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Just to clarify, I have not accepted, and am not sure I will.

You are correct, sorry.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I did say he was controlling. I also did not say he was against joining a cult when he accepted the invite.

I'm not trying to manufacture a case against GGG. He asked who I thought was suspicious and I gave my answers. Could I be wrong? Uh yeah, without a doubt.

Sorry, that was a prompted list. For some reason it looks different for me if it was unprompted. Carry on.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GGG

Because if I am mafia I already know who is town and don't really care what you think as I have a doctor, cop, and dayvig to kill before I worry about which people townies think are most likely town. Also you would be sharing it with all the other townies and forcing the mafia to do the same.

However, town me wants to see your logic, evaluate it, and modify my list based on it.

Mafia you would like not to share as you have to put information out there that can be evaluated as people flip

Town you should want to share information in the same way town me does. However you and I see things very differently on this front as discussed on day 2.

Originally Posted by formulate

This is exactly what I'm talking about in regards to Girlysports. Withholding thoughts or information from the mafia is also withholding from the town. Why is she the only one obsessed with tiptoeing around the mafia?

Because I don't like it. I like how many people in the town have tried to predict voting patterns and posting behavior. I'm all for that. But to make public lists, I don't like it. GGG, yes if you were mafia you know who everyone was but you don't know who the major roles are (or you're not supposed to until people reveal).

I think public lists do give away some clues. I think trusted townies become targets as well just as much as major roles.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by starseed

Sorry, that was a prompted list. For some reason it looks different for me if it was unprompted. Carry on.

First two times I tried to quote/reply and my phone kept freezing. 3rd time I gave up and just did quick post

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Timbo

I think I am the only one who sees both the destructive nature of the factions and the harm it does to the townies by purely distracting the main goal. (interesting my main detractor states we are to hunt scum yet I have been accused of doing so, but to openly)
Snip the head off the factions quick and move on. That is all I am saying.

Clearly killing the perceived head of the Eternal did not do anything about stopping the invites.

Why are you hold onto that?

[starseed]

I got a response from mazrim, he said no to my question of if I could send a message to the inviter or if they could send a message to me.

[mrkajz44]

Man, the Timbo "melt down" is just like it was with hmmm, who flipped town. That is giving me slight pause with my vote against him. I think I'm just second guessing myself too much at this point.

I'm disappointed that Rathji is really considering the Eternals invite. The factions have done nothing but confuse, the powers don't seem to work or don't work properly, and votes are automatically tallied against. When Rathji says he doesn't see any downside, I just can't see the upside! Nothing to do with the Guardians or Etnerals have helped us so far.

[Mazrim]

Vote Count:

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 6 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (4): GGG, Wood, Rathji, Drury18

Voted:
starseed (5): Oling_Roachinen, Timbo, Hockeyguy15, squiggs96, formulate
Timbo (5): East Coast Flame, mrkajz44, starseed, Puxlut, Aeneas
GGG (1): GirlySports
squiggs96 (1): dissentowner

The deadline is Tuesday, October 14th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I'm disappointed that Rathji is really considering the Eternals invite. The factions have done nothing but confuse, the powers don't seem to work or don't work properly, and votes are automatically tallied against. When Rathji says he doesn't see any downside, I just can't see the upside! Nothing to do with the Guardians or Etnerals have helped us so far.

The upside that I see is the power I would 'supposedly' get is a fairly visible one, where it would be obvious if it worked or not to everyone by the time the end of the day happened (and not at the end of the second night after it is used like the poison thing that ECF got).

[GGG]

vote Timbo

I will still vote the way ECF and wood do as I said earlier today but right now no one is in a deadline lynch position so I am Puting my vote on Timbo.

One note on Timbo's last wall of post.

He adds that he still wants to cut the heads of the factions. This is well after Rathji got his eternals invite. This is very similar to how captain crunch was caught in game 2. Timbo clearly wasn't following the thread when he posted his last rant or he would gave acknowledged that killing Starseed wouldn't end the guardians.

He also disclosed he wasn't the cop after two pages of discussion about not disclosing the remaining unknown roles to protect the cop. This goes completely against his mantra of I'm an active scum hunter.

Right now this is our best chance to hit scum.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by GGG

We are 27hrs to lynch. By the end of today everyone should have placed a vote.

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Hasn’t Voted (4): GGG, Wood, Rathji, Drury18

Do as I say, not as I do?

Spend the night telling people to post lists making accusations, but never voted himself?

Throws the spotlight onto those of us asking questions while he just makes more accusations?

Says stop hiding information and share if you are town, but can't do it himself?

vote: GGG

This needs to stop.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Drury18

Do as I say, not as I do?

Spend the night telling people to post lists making accusations, but never voted himself?

Throws the spotlight onto those of us asking questions while he just makes more accusations?

Says stop hiding information and share if you are town, but can't do it himself?

vote: GGG

This needs to stop.

Not voting at all is not the same as unvoted. I dont have time to go and see if he has voted, but I am in this list as well, and I know I voted today (and unvoted).

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Not voting at all is not the same as unvoted. I dont have time to go and see if he has voted, but I am in this list as well, and I know I voted today (and unvoted).

With his reference to the hours left until the deadline, I believe he we referring to "today" as "end of day on Monday" not Day 3. He had an earlier post wanting a lynch to happen on Monday and then this one.

[East Coast Flame]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

ECF, how long was your invite to the Eternals? Long?

Would be some proof that the Eternals and Guardians may not be coming from the same source. One of my speculations.

It was quite long, but didn't say anything specific about me. I like what someone posted earlier - it was a lot of words without saying much.

Sorry for the lack of posting over the weekend. I'm back.

These guardian/eternal things are a huge distraction and I think they are leading us down a wrong path. I think as a town if we agree to not accept any more invites (which I thought we already did, thanks for keeping up Rathji) and focus on scum. If something else from these groups becomes a concern, we can look at it then.

After catching up with the thread, not much has swayed my opinion. I still generally believe Starseed and I feel good about a Timbo lynch.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Not voting at all is not the same as unvoted. I dont have time to go and see if he has voted, but I am in this list as well, and I know I voted today (and unvoted).

I believe GGG just made his first vote for the 'day' just recently. He was hoping Wood and ECF would come to an agreement and he would vote with them.

That's a bit sketchy in my opinion. I'll cut GGG some slack since he has at least made his list so we know where he stands, but simply following Wood and ECF's vote seems like a good way to remove responsibility from his actions. Something we've seen mafia do before.