What to do with Huberdeau?

[AustinL_NHL]

Yea, there's not much of an argument or comparison really to be made of any bad contract in any Major Sport that is even close to the same realm in terms of being as awful a contract as Huberdeau's is.

Single-handedly has the biggest strangle hold on any franchise of any sport, and he's 25% into the 1st year of an 8 year terror reign.

Truly in a category of his own. Just an unprecedented instant failure.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Just need to be patient. The man’s a thoroughbred.

[Derek Sutton]

Chicago has a way of getting out of contracts unlike any other team in the league, a trade to the Hawks makes the most sense. Hossa, Seabrook, Towes, Perry, there’s probably one or two I’m missing as well, all big money deals the Hawks managed to turn over to insurance companies, well most of them.

[Strange Brew]

He did have a decent game against Seattle. It's just that he's not really "creating" that much IMO. He does make some nice passes but not the kind of passes that are leading to high danger chances And he is still passing it into people's skates a lot too, especially when he or the other player is moving.

Simple law of averages says that he starts putting up a few points soon and maybe that helps with his confidence. But considering he doesn't even handle the puck all that much, it's hard to see a big avalanche of points coming.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

So they should get rid of everyone and field a team of Dubes?

It just means that every player on that list is underpaid by the Huberdeau scale. Some by a lot.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Seth Jones from the moment he was on the market was viewed as a terrible trade to make and contract and he's living up to it.

Huberdeau was a star player who earned the deal he got based on the market. It's not even comparable.

And no he's not the worst contract in sports. Just a dumb take.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Just wait until his Bon Ami Jakob Pelletier returns!

[Fourteen FTW]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Just need to be patient. The man’s a thoroughbred.

I laughed very hard at this.

[Mathgod]

If we're confident that Huby would light it up elsewhere, it would only make sense to do what we can to try and make it happen here. It might require player and/or coaching changes, and if that's the case so be it.

Either that or another 7.5 years of tank commander.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This thread gets dumber daily.

Now we putting everyone's salary based on his production?

Did we do that for Neal? Others who have had terrible seasons?

Instead of comparing player's production and relative value, it would be better to judge them based on how proud they say they are.

[Fourteen FTW]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This thread gets dumber daily.

Now we putting everyone's salary based on his production?

Did we do that for Neal? Others who have had terrible seasons?

We can and will. We’ll put our best man on the assignment.

But really we are getting a deal. At $300k a point he was worth $34,500,000 a year when we signed him.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This thread gets dumber daily.

Now we putting everyone's salary based on his production?

Did we do that for Neal? Others who have had terrible seasons?

It was a good post to put the performance for the salary in perspective.

Neal was supposed to be a complementary player to provide secondary scoring which never happened because Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm worked and the 3M line worked. So he played with Bennett and Jankowski and sulked about it, then he got shipped out for another boat anchor contract.

Neal was not the highest paid Flame of all time. I think he was 4th on the team that year.

Everyone was complaining about Neal but the Flames had one of their best seasons that year despite him, as opposed to missing the playoffs.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I find it interesting to put more perspective into just how ridiculously bad and inefficient his salary and production are. If you don't, that's fine.

You think anyone is missing this “perspective”? Let’s all agree it’s “ridiculously bad”. That was what you wanted - agreement on that point? Hooray, mission accomplished.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You think anyone is missing this “perspective”? Let’s all agree it’s “ridiculously bad”. That was what you wanted - agreement on that point? Hooray, mission accomplished.

What was wrong with the post? We would all be up in arms if any of the players on that list were making the corresponding amount. It shows how bad Huberdeau has been relative to his contract by comparing it to other Flame players we watch all the time.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Chicago has a way of getting out of contracts unlike any other team in the league, a trade to the Hawks makes the most sense. Hossa, Seabrook, Towes, Perry, there’s probably one or two I’m missing as well, all big money deals the Hawks managed to turn over to insurance companies, well most of them.

Chicago isn’t touching that contract with a ten foot pole. They’ve indicated they will rebuild slowly.

And Hossa was still a very good player. Perry was playing well and his cap hit was not relevant to Chicago. Neither was Toews. Seabrook had double hip surgery.

Insurance companies only pay if players are really injured.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by butterfly

What was wrong with the post? We would all be up in arms if any of the players on that list were making the corresponding amount. It shows how bad Huberdeau has been relative to his contract by comparing it to other Flame players we watch all the time.

That's not how it works which is why it was a dumb post.

You think Dube is going to be paid based on being a star and his production?

You think Greer will?

Like we get it. He's not producing. He was paid based on being a star and producing big numbers prior to coming to Calgary. Clearly something isn't working here.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That's not how it works which is why it was a dumb post.

You think Dube is going to be paid based on being a star and his production?

You think Greer will?

Like we get it. He's not producing. He was paid based on being a star and producing big numbers prior to coming to Calgary. Clearly something isn't working here.

Yeah. His name is Jonathan.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That's not how it works which is why it was a dumb post.

You think Dube is going to be paid based on being a star and his production?

You think Greer will?

Like we get it. He's not producing. He was paid based on being a star and producing big numbers prior to coming to Calgary. Clearly something isn't working here.

If everyone got paid the way Huberdeau is, then that’s how much they’d be making.

Everyone gets paid for production. If Greer gets 12-15 goals and plays with an edge and some energy, he will get a nice little contract somewhere instead of getting waived and league minimum.

Something isn’t working here and that post helps to quantify just how much it isn’t working.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Try being more kind.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by butterfly

If everyone got paid the way Huberdeau is, then that’s how much they’d be making.

Everyone gets paid for production. If Greer gets 12-15 goals and plays with an edge and some energy, he will get a nice little contract somewhere instead of getting waived and league minimum.

Something isn’t working here and that post helps to quantify just how much it isn’t working.

It really doesn’t help at all. NHL salaries are not based on production. They are based on negotiations. Your Greer example is him negotiating a contract based on this year’s performance. Huberdeau’s was him negotiating based on. The performance in the past. How much do you pay a 114 point guy? That was the negotiation. All posts like that one are not offering any real insight. They are just wallowing in misery.