How can Bernie possibly justify making everyone vote Tuesday? He's putting the community in danger with absolutely no chance of winning. He's putting the public at risk just for his own stubbornness. Is he going to make them move this race to the end of summer? That only helps Trump win or helps Trump justify moving the election.
Biden comes across as being far more reasonable than Sanders. And not just in terms of policies. He seems more agreeable in general.
I'm currently preparing an essay with the intention of rebuking the DemExit movement. I'm genuinely curious as to why you see Joe as more agreeable than Bernie. I'm not debating you here, I'm just genuinely curious as to why you see things the way you do. Any specifics would be helpful, ie: things that Joe says vs things Bernie says, etc.
I'm currently preparing an essay with the intention of rebuking the DemExit movement. I'm genuinely curious as to why you see Joe as more agreeable than Bernie. I'm not debating you here, I'm just genuinely curious as to why you see things the way you do. Any specifics would be helpful, ie: things that Joe says vs things Bernie says, etc.
Cant speak for 1qqaaz but for me Bern's body language is just terrible, I just have this permanent image of him hunching over the lectern jabbing and pointing, he looks angry, he may not be angry but he looks angry, Biden, who may well be far more angry than Bern, looks relaxed and open.
I would think that in the state of emergency that the Democratic nomination process is going to be put on hold until the emergency subsides.
They can't expect people to flock out to vote and Biden and Sanders should be pushing for a vote delay and for people to stay home.
That could well push resolution of this off until July or August or later. That brings up all sorts of problems if we go into fall without a nominee. Bernie needs to withdraw today for the good of the country at so many levels.
I'm currently preparing an essay with the intention of rebuking the DemExit movement. I'm genuinely curious as to why you see Joe as more agreeable than Bernie. I'm not debating you here, I'm just genuinely curious as to why you see things the way you do. Any specifics would be helpful, ie: things that Joe says vs things Bernie says, etc.
Bernie Sanders is an independent that only joins the Democratic Party when it is beneficial for him. He did this back in 2015, and then as soon as he lost the 2016 nomination, he became an independent again. He has no interest in forming coalitions or looking for compromise. If you don't see things his way, then he has no interest in working with you. Saying that Biden is more agreeable than Sanders is an understatement.
That could well push resolution of this off until July or August or later. That brings up all sorts of problems if we go into fall without a nominee. Bernie needs to withdraw today for the good of the country at so many levels.
Why today? If he chooses to withdraw, he can end the process any time regardless of what's happening with primaries. It doesn't need to be today, or tomorrow.
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I feel like a billion dollars is pretty safe upper limit on the sense that it's so ridiculously high that there's really no danger to anyone.
Like, sure, you can for example own stocks that are worth a lot but can't actually turn them into usable funds for reasons. What ever. At one billion dollars no one is going to be living in poverty.or even mild discomfort that could be made better with more money.
I also don't think anyone, the government or anyone else, can be trusted to be particularly smart.
Which is a point for limiting personal wealth. Money is power, especially when we're talking billions.
No single person should have that much financial power. Ten people owning a billion dollars is better than one person with ten billion.
If I am understanding you correctly, what you are essentially saying is that $1 billion is more than one person will ever "need" and by limiting a person's wealth to $1 billion, the societal greater good will improve.
I have a number of problems with this perspective. Firstly, what you need or don't need is irrelevant. No doubt I could look at your life and find a great number of things that you don't actually need. Arbitrarily setting limits on those things and taking whatever is in excess strikes me as a pretty immoral thing to do.
As you acknowledged, billionaire's tend to be worth billions not because they have piles of cash lying around, but because they founded companies that now have billion dollar valuations. Their wealth lies in the stocks that they own. Your idea to prevent them from being able to sell those stocks is absurd as you would be making them worthless. I also fail to see how this would make your life, or anyone else's life better for that matter.
Last week, the top 5 richest men in the world lost a combined $24 billion. Did your quality of life improve as a result? Are you feeling any freer today than you were a month ago? I suspect not. The wealth gap is a political slight of hand. Chances are that Jeff Bezos' net worth has no direct impact on your ability to earn a decent living.
Why today? If he chooses to withdraw, he can end the process any time regardless of what's happening with primaries. It doesn't need to be today, or tomorrow.
The primaries probably (definitely?) shouldn't proceed tomorrow. Bernie can stop them from proceeding by dropping out. If they postpone tomorrow, then they'll shut them down for a while.
So, if he's going to stay in the race through tomorrow's parties, I guess he'll stay in at least until the next votes are counted. It would look good on him and the Democratic party to bow out now in the best interest of the country. There is no upside to him staying. He doesn't have a chance unless something crazy happens.
The primaries probably (definitely?) shouldn't proceed tomorrow. Bernie can stop them from proceeding by dropping out. If they postpone tomorrow, then they'll shut them down for a while.
So, if he's going to stay in the race through tomorrow's parties, I guess he'll stay in at least until the next votes are counted. It would look good on him and the Democratic party to bow out now in the best interest of the country. There is no upside to him staying. He doesn't have a chance unless something crazy happens.
If you've been reading his surrogates online this is exactly the hope. But once Bernie loses by 20+% in all the races tomorrow he basically needs Biden to die at that point. Bernie is going to piss more people off staying in the race past tomorrow night than he will be expanding his base.
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Bernie Sanders is an independent that only joins the Democratic Party when it is beneficial for him. He did this back in 2015, and then as soon as he lost the 2016 nomination, he became in an independent again. He has no interest in forming coalitions or looking for compromise. If you don't see things his way, then he has no interest in working with you. Saying that Biden is more agreeable than Sanders is an understatement.
Bernie certainly wants to change the party, but that doesn't mean he has no interest in coalitions. He just puts his ideals and his values ahead of his electoral success or opportunity to be awarded an important role after losing. He's looking to build coalition around values instead of around party, and he's trying to bring democrats and independents into that.
Party membership is hardly selfless on anyone's part anyways. There are benefits to be gained for every candidate based upon party membership, and more benefits based upon loyalty to party. I would think the large majority of candidates only care about coalitions because the political reality is that's what's needed for electoral success in the democratic party. When push comes to shove though, they play the long game and trade loyalty for favour and potential appointments to influential roles.
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The primaries probably (definitely?) shouldn't proceed tomorrow. Bernie can stop them from proceeding by dropping out. If they postpone tomorrow, then they'll shut them down for a while.
So, if he's going to stay in the race through tomorrow's parties, I guess he'll stay in at least until the next votes are counted. It would look good on him and the Democratic party to bow out now in the best interest of the country. There is no upside to him staying. He doesn't have a chance unless something crazy happens.
The party could postpone primaries anyways. It's not all down to Bernie.
I also agree he doesn't have much of a chance of becoming the candidate, but he can still use the time, primaries or no primaries, to pressure further movement towards his policy priorities.
What is the incentive offered by the party or the Biden campaign for him to pull out anyways? Everyone else who pulled out and then backed Biden will probably have some reward down the road, but the impression is certainly given that Bernie isn't invited to the post-primaries after party, so why should he concede his positions?
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Postponing the primaries at this point hurts the Democrats as a whole, regardless of who the nominee is. Bernie's chances are non-existent, staying in at this point is either for vanity or in the hopes of something catastrophic from Biden. Most Bernie supporters were banking on Biden being a disaster at the debate last night, but he was clearly far from that. Biden is unlikely to debate again, and only Bernie supporters will be pissed at that. If Bernie wants to keep going he needs to lay out what his goal really is, because winning the nomination isn't a realistic goal at all.
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"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."
Last week, the top 5 richest men in the world lost a combined $24 billion. Did your quality of life improve as a result? Are you feeling any freer today than you were a month ago? I suspect not. The wealth gap is a political slight of hand. Chances are that Jeff Bezos' net worth has no direct impact on your ability to earn a decent living.
While I don't agree with a $1B cap, the part that you're missing is that the extra money would go to the Government in way of taxes (or whatever mechanism is chosen). Today it doesn't.
Your comment about the rich losing money and it having no impact on "us" is completely irrelevant.
imagine actually making the argument that billionaires dont need to be taxed more because they lost a lot of money when the markets took a hit during a historic virus outbreak and we didnt see any tangible benefit to the common man
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