In reviewing this Nashville story, one thing kind of struck me a bit.
The attacker apparently diarized that there were two targets, a mall and then this school, but they selected the school due to inferior security measures in comparison to the mall.
If you believe that airport security measures are necessary based on the risk posed to hijackings, bombs threats, etc., and you view that in the lens of how much cost and oversight goes into security measures for airports and aircraft, why is the same not being regulated into schools?
Seems to me like schools are becoming a frequent target of these types of attacks. Shouldn't there be extensive security checkpoints, maybe fencing is required, metal detectors (at all schools, not just some). It doesn't just need to be teachers get guns. Maybe more security is required generally speaking, and should be regulated in and mandated at schools.
Sure, there will be cost. But there already is huge cost with deciding not to confront the armed population.
An aside and something I've thought about for awhile, I am genuinely surprised there has not been (violent) retribution to NSA members and leadership, or their families, in retaliation for blocking bills and playing politics with this issue. Seems like some parent of a murdered 8 year old could rationalize trying to "fix" the situation.
Yes, "cost" is likely the #1 reason why not. There are over 500 schools in Calgary and one airport (I'm not including YBW because AFAIK, there is not much in the way of passenger security measures). The cost of implementing even half the security measures of an international airport into all the schools in the city would be massive, IMO.
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Yes, "cost" is likely the #1 reason why not. There are over 500 schools in Calgary and one airport (I'm not including YBW because AFAIK, there is not much in the way of passenger security measures). The cost of implementing even half the security measures of an international airport into all the schools in the city would be massive, IMO.
Also, pretty ineffective.
Airport security isn't designed to keep people from getting guns, or other things into an airport, it's designed to keep people from hiding those things.
Metal detectors don't stop anyone who intends to go through them and shoot up a place from doing so, it just means they have to start doing it a little sooner.
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Yeah, well, when you decide to let every civilian just go buy machine guns I guess it's maybe a cost you'd be okay with to keep people safe. Alternatively, looks like Americans are okay with their kids being exposed to a small degree of risk of being assault rifled and not trying to impose greater safety measures to limit damage that can be done.
But, can't help but wonder if the parents of those 3 9 year olds, or parents of all the kids at that school, may have a different opinion today.
Also, pretty ineffective.
Airport security isn't designed to keep people from getting guns, or other things into an airport, it's designed to keep people from hiding those things.
Metal detectors don't stop anyone who intends to go through them and shoot up a place from doing so, it just means they have to start doing it a little sooner.
Yes I thought the same thing. But if you could install that entry point prior to the school then theoretically you could have the doors etc. all locked down prior to an attacker is able to get inside the building.
Ultimately, it probably just redirects the attack to another location though I guess, not really preventing an attack.
Ultimately, it probably just redirects the attack to another location though I guess, not really preventing an attack.
Yeah, unless it is a very specific beef the person has, like at work or something, most of these people are just going to find the softest targets they can. More security might protect certain locations, but it doesn't solve the overall problem.. Unless you just have tight security everywhere like a police state, but that would suck to live in a place like that.
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There is nothing anyone can do if you are trying to prevent a heavily armed attacker that plans to storm somewhere other than removing their ability to get the guns in the first place, the less access to firepower and rate of fire they have the less harm they can do, there is likely no building in Canada less well guarded than Parliament but our own home grown wack job managed to get into the building, the reason he only managed to kill one person is because he was only able to scrounge up a lever action rifle designed in the 1894, if you gave that mook a semi auto the death toll would have been far far higher
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In reviewing this Nashville story, one thing kind of struck me a bit.
The attacker apparently diarized that there were two targets, a mall and then this school, but they selected the school due to inferior security measures in comparison to the mall.
If you believe that airport security measures are necessary based on the risk posed to hijackings, bombs threats, etc., and you view that in the lens of how much cost and oversight goes into security measures for airports and aircraft, why is the same not being regulated into schools?
Seems to me like schools are becoming a frequent target of these types of attacks. Shouldn't there be extensive security checkpoints, maybe fencing is required, metal detectors (at all schools, not just some). It doesn't just need to be teachers get guns. Maybe more security is required generally speaking, and should be regulated in and mandated at schools.
Sure, there will be cost. But there already is huge cost with deciding not to confront the armed population.
An aside and something I've thought about for awhile, I am genuinely surprised there has not been (violent) retribution to NSA members and leadership, or their families, in retaliation for blocking bills and playing politics with this issue. Seems like some parent of a murdered 8 year old could rationalize trying to "fix" the situation.
I feel like bulletproof doors & windows, and active alarm monitoring would go a a long way towards preventing something like this.
The shooter in Nashville basically shot through the front door to get in. Didn't really help locking the doors....
I feel like bulletproof doors & windows, and active alarm monitoring would go a a long way towards preventing something like this.
The shooter in Nashville basically shot through the front door to get in. Didn't really help locking the doors....
the obvious counter to this is a shooter would just do exactly the same thing some those bastard porch pirates Rutuu hates so much do at an apartment building, wait until recess when there are people constantly coming and going and the door is impossible to secure, or just kill the kids in the playground
the obvious counter to this is a shooter would just do exactly the same thing some those bastard porch pirates Rutuu hates so much do at an apartment building, wait until recess when there are people constantly coming and going and the door is impossible to secure, or just kill the kids in the playground
Don't forget bicycle thieves...they've been running Heist tropes against the CPS for years.
Do kids go out for recess or Phys Ed still? I mean those activities you can plan around if you're going to call of duty some kids on mass. If you wanna get away with it the van snipers have a pretty good hit rate too.
Why have windows if you want bullet proof? Concrete all they way and transport them like it's Gilead with guards.
I know it depends on how a mass shooting is defined but I saw a stat recently that the U.S. was averaging almost 1.5 per day so far this year. My wife and I discussed it this morning. We were just in California and admit that the risk (very small) was in our minds a wee bit.
I know it friends on how a mass shooting is defined but I saw a stat recently that the U.S. was averaging almost 1.5 per day so far this year. My wife and I discussed it this morning. We were just in California and admit that the risk (very small) was in our minds a wee bit.
Yeah because you were on vacation. Imagine living in that kyithole country year round and raising kids there?
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