2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by hockey.modern

Boston probably doesn't want colborne back

I would imagine that Boston and Toronto would love to have Colborne back. But they can't have him. I think he is on the verge of a breakout season. And if he isn't, still a very useful player.

A big forward who can play center and wing who scores at about a 40 point pace who makes about half of the average salary is a player that every team in the NHL wants. Especially a team with cap troubles.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I would imagine that Boston and Toronto would love to have Colborne back. But they can't have him. I think he is on the verge of a breakout season. And if he isn't, still a very useful player.

A big forward who can play center and wing who scores at about a 40 point pace who makes about half of the average salary is a player that every team in the NHL wants. Especially a team with cap troubles.

All true. That being said he needs to become more disciplined as he takes entirely too many bad penalties.

[66Dukester]

I would like to see Franson in Calgary, he has the size and skills that we need.
would also like to see Treliving sign Dakota Mermis. He is a free agent doing fantastic things with the Oshawa Generals, its the kids third straight Memorial Cup

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

I would imagine that Boston and Toronto would love to have Colborne back. But they can't have him. I think he is on the verge of a breakout season. And if he isn't, still a very useful player.



A big forward who can play center and wing who scores at about a 40 point pace who makes about half of the average salary is a player that every team in the NHL wants. Especially a team with cap troubles.

I like the more physical Colborne we saw in the playoffs. If he can build on that but learn where the line is and avoid penalties he would be a real asset

[Knut]

Originally Posted by 66Dukester

I would like to see Franson in Calgary, he has the size and skills that we need.
would also like to see Treliving sign Dakota Mermis. He is a free agent doing fantastic things with the Oshawa Generals, its the kids third straight Memorial Cup

That's not a real person.

[Vinny01]

Another player I see thrown into trade proposals by flames fans on HF is Colbrone and I don't get it. He was frustrating at points in the regular season and took a few poor penalties in the playoffs but he is starting to come into his own. The guy also loves the city, organization, and his teammates. He added a physical edge and was much better at holding onto the puck down low especially in the postseason.

I think he still has second line 40-50pt upside and should not be moved at this time

[IgiTang]

The only issue atiu d Colborne is the question of, has he peaked? What's his ceiling and do we have better coming up? Aka Hunter Smith.

Is Colborne a top or bottom 6 guy? Do the Flames need to use one of the top 9 spot for someone coming up?

Is Colborne and players alike sweeteners in deals around the rebuild or part of the solution going forward.

I don't know if he is part of the future.

In 2 years, I see our fwd core as being..

JG, Monahan, ........
Bouma, Bennett, .......
Ferland, Backlund, Jones

2 spots he could possibly slot into but consider what should be up and coming.

Hunter Smith
Poirier
Jooris
Granlund
Reinhart
Arnold
Agostino

And so on...

Where does a Colborne fit in the future of this team?

[Da_Chief]

For one, he'd definitely be ahead of Jones, who in likelihood won't be re-signed.

He'll be a 3rd line guy, playing all 3 positions.

[sa226]

To me Ferland is the X factor. He has the talent and the tools to be a top six guy, but can he put it all together.

Guys like Bouma, Backlund, Colborne and others of that ilk are top six players on overachieving teams. But realistically they are very good bottom six players on a very good team.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

The only issue atiu d Colborne is the question of, has he peaked? What's his ceiling and do we have better coming up? Aka Hunter Smith.

Is Colborne a top or bottom 6 guy? Do the Flames need to use one of the top 9 spot for someone coming up?

Is Colborne and players alike sweeteners in deals around the rebuild or part of the solution going forward.

I don't know if he is part of the future.

In 2 years, I see our fwd core as being..

JG, Monahan, ........
Bouma, Bennett, .......
Ferland, Backlund, Jones

2 spots he could possibly slot into but consider what should be up and coming.

Hunter Smith
Poirier
Jooris
Granlund
Reinhart
Arnold
Agostino

And so on...

Where does a Colborne fit in the future of this team?

The flames will definitely, eventually need to ship out some popular pieces here that will make some unhappy. There's no way they can keep everyone. Like Chicago does, hopefully the flames are smart about it and use those pieces to upgrade where they can otherwise build toward future success. Colborne to me could be one of those pieces moved.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

The flames will definitely, eventually need to ship out some popular pieces here that will make some unhappy. There's no way they can keep everyone. Like Chicago does, hopefully the flames are smart about it and use those pieces to upgrade where they can otherwise build toward future success. Colborne to me could be one of those pieces moved.

It's not like teams want our garbage. If you want good players, you have to offer something of value

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Rumors of Euro (mostly Russian) guys coming to the NHL. With the exception of Tikhonov, all would fall under the NHL's ELC rules:



C/RW Sergei Kalinin - 6'3'' 190lbs 24 years shoots L
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=43871
rumors from Russia is that he wants to try his hand at the NHL
suffered a major injury during the KHL playoffs this year - reportedly a "cerebal brain contusion", may not recover until after October
has no current KHL contract
believed Chicago is interested

Kalinin's agent tells rsport that the Devils have made him an offer:

http://rsport.ru/hockey/20150523/834107452.html

[blender]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

It's not like teams want our garbage. If you want good players, you have to offer something of value

Colborne is certainly not garbage.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

The only issue atiu d Colborne is the question of, has he peaked? What's his ceiling and do we have better coming up? Aka Hunter Smith.

If Smith is lucky he'll turn out to be half the player Colborne is right now.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by blender

Colbourne is certainly not garbage.

That's my point.

[AC]

Also his last name is Colborne believe it or not!

[Mister Yamoto]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I like the more physical Colborne we saw in the playoffs. If he can build on that but learn where the line is and avoid penalties he would be a real asset

How many times in the last 2 seasons have you heard someone say " I really like Colborne but I wish he would play meaner"? Well we got it and I like it. But it's gonna likely mean more penalties. We got what we wished for.

Mean Joe > Lady Byng Colborne

If the Joe Colborne we saw the last 2 months of the season is the Joe Colborne we get all off next year the Flames will have one helluva player. I am more than willing to look the other way on a few extra penalties. But ya, you make a good point edslunch. He still has to learn how to play that role properly.

[IgiTang]

I didn't say Colborne was garbage by any means.

He's still finding his game and perhaps we seen the best of it this far, in the playoffs. But is it enough? Will there be more? What type of game suits him and the Flames?

I know Burke wants him to use his size more and I think he is. But is he great at winning puck battles? Im not convinced. Is he good in his own end? He's OK I guess.. Is he worth holding on to for the possibility of him becoming a dominant power forward type? Or a large bodied puck distributor? I don't know.. Do any of you? I would guess not due to the fact we have yet to see what his game is. Personally, he should be well on his way to establishing his game and now should be looking at perfecting it... Both have yet to happen.

One big plus to holding onto Colborne is, he sure could help pass his knowledge onto another tall, lanky lad with good hands and hockey IQ but still looking at finding his game, Mark Jankowski.

Hunter Smith is an absolute beast. The guy is no slug when skating. Is an absolute rock infront of the net and has decent hands and IQ. My best comparison to Smith is Patrick Maroon.

Do I think Colborne is better now, absolutely. Do i think Smith will be better than Colborne? Not necessarily. The difference is, one knows what his bread and butter are in hockey. Smith knows how to be a beast down low and his very hard to knock off the puck.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

The only issue atiu d Colborne is the question of, has he peaked? What's his ceiling and do we have better coming up? Aka Hunter Smith.

Hunter Smith is irrelevant at this point. He is no where near NHL ready and likely won't be for a couple years. Until that time comes you don't move a young guy that is still developing in his own right and is playing well.

Is Colborne a top or bottom 6 guy? Do the Flames need to use one of the top 9 spot for someone coming up?

Does that matter? We will always have room for a 6'5" 225 pounder that can skate and play multiple positions. If we find better options he moves donw the lineup. That is how you develop depth, especially with guys that can play multiple positions.

Is Colborne and players alike sweeteners in deals around the rebuild or part of the solution going forward.

So when a youg guy starts playing to his potential and looks like he's on the verge of a breakout you should use him as a sweetener? Hey, maybe we should use Bennett as a sweetener to move up in the draft?

In 2 years, I see our fwd core as being..

JG, Monahan, ........
Bouma, Bennett, .......
Ferland, Backlund, Jones

Good god, you include what will be a 32 year old David Jones as part of forward core, but are willing to currently throwaway a 25 year old just coming into his own? Glad you're not running this team. David Jones will be lucky is he survives this summer as a Calgary Flame let alone earn another contract that would see him as part of this team in two years. I'd actually be surprised to see Backlund be around in that time frame as well.

2 spots he could possibly slot into but consider what should be up and coming.

Hunter Smith
Poirier
Jooris
Granlund
Reinhart
Arnold
Agostino

Well, we know for certain that Colborne plays well with Monahan. We also know he can play any role given him. So I'm not concerned about where he plays. And until Hunter Smith proves he can play in the professional ranks, and Emile Poirier shows he's capable of playing in the NHL, Joe Colborne should have nothing to worry about. I don't see the other players being in a position to compete with Colborne unless they can show they are capable of playing the off wing. If anything, most of those players are competition for Backlund, who should be very concerned about holding onto his job with those young turks coming up. That also doesn't take into consideration Mark Jankowski being a possible fit into the third pivot role.

Where does a Colborne fit in the future of this team?

Colborne fits in quite nicely. I could see this as our forward depth in two or three years.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Colborne
Ferland-Bennett-Poirier
Granlund/Klimchuk-Jankowski-Smith
Bouma-Arnold-Agostino
Carroll-Shore-Hathaway

You could take any of those top three right wingers and move them up and down the lineup and I don't think you are going to hurt yourself in any way. That is what depth can do for you. Those guys left out should be able to help us improve our blue line, which makes the future very bright. A big part of that is Joe Colborne and the 4th round draft pick we invested in him.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by AC

Also his last name is Colborne believe it or not!

Colbourne is the Canadian way of spelling it....