[Trade] Andersson (50% retained) to Vegas for 27 1st, cond 28 2nd, Whitecloud, Wiebe

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think the differences between Weegar/Maatta and Andersson/Whitecloud are nearly enough to justify what Vegas and Utah gave up for them

Perfect, that sums it up nicely

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I decided to remove the insults....you should consider doing the same

Im right though...Ras isnt a huge upgrade for Vegas. Certainly not enough to put them over. Like what exactly is your point? He hasnt worked out there so far. Athletic had an article about it today. Flames homers!

Had no idea The Athletic had an article about Rasmus Andersson not working out for Vegas, hopefully you can link back to that with relevant quotes. Your edit was funny because it was a dumb thing to say, I couldn't care less about personal insults.

FYI their coach started him on the 3rd pair not me...sorry for reporting relevant information

FYI I'm glad you brought this up again, I'll quote your follow up again.

I posted it while watching the START of the game and their home announcers were talking about him on the 3rd pair and how poorly the trade had gone.

This is a flat out lie and complete fabrication by the way. At no point at the start of the game or even the first half of the first period to the Vegas announce team mention the blue line pairings, the trade, or how poorly the trade has gone. Complete story.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It's still early but this could turn into a top 10 bomb trade in history for Vegas.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer team.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Had no idea The Athletic had an article about Rasmus Andersson not working out for Vegas, hopefully you can link back to that with relevant quotes. Your edit was funny because it was a dumb thing to say, I couldn't care less about personal insults.


FYI I'm glad you brought this up again, I'll quote your follow up again.


This is a flat out lie and complete fabrication by the way. At no point at the start of the game or even the first half of the first period to the Vegas announce team mention the blue line pairings, the trade, or how poorly the trade has gone. Complete story.

It was mentioned in the pregame...not sure why you want to fight about this. I mean you posted the next day. There are dozens of articles about him playing poorly thus far in Vegas like what are you even on about.

What is your point? Has he played well there? Did his coach split him and Hanifin up?

[BigThief]

In the pregame? By who? When during the pregame? Show me. I'm not fighting about it, I'm calling you a liar.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think the differences between Weegar/Maatta and Andersson/Whitecloud are nearly enough to justify what Vegas and Utah gave up for them

Completely agree, which goes to show what a great job CC is doing managing assets so far. Squeezed surplus value out of older and more expensive players and now still has more assets to flip for more future returns if decides that's the best course to take.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by BigThief

In the pregame? By who? When during the pregame? Show me. I'm not fighting about it, I'm calling you a liar.

Well you are wrong...I dont have the pregame saved for you lol. You are honestly gonna suggest they werent discussing Ras's struggles on a pregame when their own media lineup cards had him bumped down the lineup and away from Hanfin whom he had played every other game with. Also, a 2 second google such will bring up 10 articles questioning his play so far. But yeah totally made up...he is doing awesome in Vegas my mistake.

[BigThief]

First post claimed at the start of the game, now it's pregame. You're lying.

Also, a 2 second google such will bring up 10 articles questioning his play so far.

I don't care, that wasn't the point. I'm not suggesting Rasmus is beyond reproach, I'm saying the conversation you said that happened at the time you said it.. didn't.

But let's see all those articles. I'd love to see them to break down exactly what's said. Don't coward out and say I should do it, you do it, you back up your claim.

[HockeyKhan]

Originally Posted by BigThief

First post claimed at the start of the game, now it's pregame. You're lying.


I don't care, that wasn't the point. I'm not suggesting Rasmus is beyond reproach, I'm saying the conversation you said that happened at the time you said it.. didn't.

But let's see all those articles. I'd love to see them to break down exactly what's said. Don't coward out and say I should do it, you do it, you back up your claim.

I’m gonna be honest I’ve read the last few pages a couple times and I still have no idea what you are even arguing about or what your point is.

[dino7c]

I mean you want me to do work and then you move the goalposts again but I will humor you a bit.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...re-march-2026/

However, Andersson’s performance with the Knights so far has not sent out a decisive signal that he is an upgrade over Whitecloud. The 29-year-old has seven points in 22 games so far, a clear dip from when he was with the Flames. Worryingly, Whitecloud has been a much more fruitful addition to the Flames lineup than Andersson has been to the Knights’.

“Andersson adds a little more production, sure, but even with that, his average Game Score in Vegas has been minus-0.18, way down from his 0.60 in Calgary. As for Whitecloud, he’s been at 0.63 with the Flames, playing on the top pair with Kevin Bahl,” wrote Dom Luszczyszyn in a contribution to The Athletic.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by HockeyKhan

I’m gonna be honest I’ve read the last few pages a couple times and I still have no idea what you are even arguing about or what your point is.

He is mad that I posted that Rasmus was split up from Hanifin and on the third pair to start last game and that their media were talking about it and suggested he wasn't playing all that well. (shocker they are 30th overall since the trade)

I doctored the dailyfaceoof site too in my diabolical plan
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/v...e-combinations

[Jason14h]

Nothing like a pro football network article to prove your point that ….. ??? Something

And you got caught lying . Just own it !

Andersson sucks with Vegas , that’s 100% true - but none of what you claimed happened during the game

CP Fact Police at it again

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Nothing like a pro football network article to prove your point that ….. ??? Something

And you got caught lying . Just own it !

Andersson sucks with Vegas , that’s 100% true - but none of what you claimed happened during the game

CP Fact Police at it again

Dont be a moron its a from Knights reporter and refrences the Dom's thoughts from the athletic article which is paywall. I also posted the lineups from daily faceoff. I dont have the pregame saved incase anyone thought I was lying. You seriously dont think moving Rasmus away from Hanifin to the 3rd pair would be discussed? If that happened here a few years back Steinberg would spend the entire afternoon on it.

They didnt break that pair up because they were playing well. Rasmus seems to have responded well but that is irrelevant to what I posted at the start if the first period which was 100% factual. He was third pair and their talking heads said it was because of poor play....duh

[InternationalVillager]

Rasmus was overrated by the fan base here. Conroy made out like a bandit considering Whitecloud can now be traded for a top end pick.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Rasmus was overrated by the fan base here. Conroy made out like a bandit considering Whitecloud can now be traded for a top end pick.

Still is

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He is mad that I posted that Rasmus was split up from Hanifin and on the third pair to start last game and that their media were talking about it and suggested he wasn't playing all that well. (shocker they are 30th overall since the trade)

I doctored the dailyfaceoof site too in my diabolical plan
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/v...e-combinations

Ummm no. Why are you lying again? I even referenced that website earlier.

Originally Posted by dino7c

I mean you want me to do work and then you move the goalposts again but I will humor you a bit.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...re-march-2026/

However, Andersson’s performance with the Knights so far has not sent out a decisive signal that he is an upgrade over Whitecloud. The 29-year-old has seven points in 22 games so far, a clear dip from when he was with the Flames. Worryingly, Whitecloud has been a much more fruitful addition to the Flames lineup than Andersson has been to the Knights’.

“Andersson adds a little more production, sure, but even with that, his average Game Score in Vegas has been minus-0.18, way down from his 0.60 in Calgary. As for Whitecloud, he’s been at 0.63 with the Flames, playing on the top pair with Kevin Bahl,” wrote Dom Luszczyszyn in a contribution to The Athletic.

One down, nine to go

[InternationalVillager]

https://twitter.com/user/status/2034639578812854371

[dino7c]

Is 12% good?