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				Ryan Leslie has never been one to have strong opinions. He's a solid host and interviewer but it tends to be from a positive angle. And that seems to be typical for the host role, probably because part of the job is to get people excited so they watch the games. My observation is that most of the folks in that role aren't that critical of the team. Point being  - you aren't going to get hard hitting criticism from him. 
			
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Fair enough, but don’t say this is a good core when that isn’t the case. He was good up to that point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 10:09 AM
			
			
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			Saying it is hard is just blabbering for the most part, but I think the "two to tango" comment is fair.  It has been an underwhelming offseason. I don't think many will argue with that.  However, I don't think making a change for the sake of change is a strong strategy.  Some may disagree, but the goal is to make the team better and not worse.  If staying put is the best alternative, then so be it.  BT should then be judged by those results.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-27-2021, 10:16 AM
			
			
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				Fair enough, but don’t say this is a good core when that isn’t the case. He was good up to that point. 
			
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Saying the core is good or not is somewhat subjective.
 
He can say what he thinks and in turn people can disagree.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 10:23 AM
			
			
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				I just think the entire talking point of "it's hard" is just useless blabbering.  
 
Ryan Leslie even said that the off-season isn't over and there's still time for Treliving to make changes, so I'm not being critical of Ryan in general - just the specific talking point/being apologetic over how hard the job is. Treliving's job is to execute at a better level than his peers, and he hasn't for a number of years now. It's okay for the media to be critical of am underperforming team and manager. 
			
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"He didn't say what I want to confirm my feelings so he needs to go along with the GM, this team sucks and I could make it better", without offering one solution other than to get Eichel (broken neck, zero playoff games, no leadership) and all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 10:26 AM
			
			
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				I just think the entire talking point of "it's hard" is just useless blabbering.  
			
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it is just stating the obvious and i agree that it's useless to say that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-27-2021, 10:37 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jiri Hrdina
					 
				 
				Ryan Leslie has never been one to have strong opinions. He's a solid host and interviewer but it tends to be from a positive angle. And that seems to be typical for the host role, probably because part of the job is to get people excited so they watch the games. My observation is that most of the folks in that role aren't that critical of the team. Point being  - you aren't going to get hard hitting criticism from him. 
			
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Fair enough, but he probably would be better off not tweeting anything. The only people following him are probably going to be the hardcore fans of the team . The only thing he is going to accomplish is pissing off hardcore fans with that fluff/dribble post.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 10:39 AM
			
			
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			I don't know why anyone would be pissed off by something that Ryan Leslie tweeted. Saying he shouldn't say anything then seems pretty lame. Surely one can better tolerate the fact that others have different viewpoints. 
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			08-27-2021, 10:51 AM
			
			
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				Saying the core is good or not is somewhat subjective.
  
			
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Not really with the results so far….
 
Not saying if he should say it or not
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 12:25 PM
			
			
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				Ryan Leslie isn't really media though....he's an employee of the Flames organization isn't he? 
 
He works for Sportsnet but he also does Flames TV and some other stuff directly for the team. 
			
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Leslie is just Francis's parrot.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 12:26 PM
			
			
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				Saying it is hard is just blabbering for the most part, but I think the "two to tango" comment is fair.  It has been an underwhelming offseason. I don't think many will argue with that.  However, I don't think making a change for the sake of change is a strong strategy.  Some may disagree, but the goal is to make the team better and not worse.  If staying put is the best alternative, then so be it.  BT should then be judged by those results. 
			
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I just noticed that if you take your signature and change MacTavish to Treliving,  it still works.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 12:59 PM
			
			
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				I just noticed that if you take your signature and change MacTavish to Treliving,  it still works. 
			
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It also works for Chiarelli and Holland
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 01:06 PM
			
			
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				I just noticed that if you take your signature and change MacTavish to Treliving,  it still works. 
			
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Mmmm, no. Not really.
 
I don't think anyone is, or could be as deluded as oiler fans.  I don't think anyone here is praising Treliving for an amazing job, just pointing out that some of the criticism is unwarranted.
 
Plus, that quote was in and around the 4 first overall stretch, a place the Flames have never found themselves in.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			08-27-2021, 02:16 PM
			
			
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				It also works for Chiarelli and Holland 
			
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yes it does. lol 
especially Chiarelli. 
I know it's like trying to tell turds apart, but I dislike him most of all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 03:06 PM
			
			
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			08-27-2021, 03:06 PM
			
			
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			08-27-2021, 03:10 PM
			
			
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			Manson screams sutter type player, but I don’t see it as we already got zadorov
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 03:12 PM
			
			
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				Manson screams sutter type player, but I don’t see it as we already got zadorov 
			
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Move Andersson in a deal for Eichel, grab Manson
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-27-2021, 03:13 PM
			
			
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			08-27-2021, 03:15 PM
			
			
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				Manson screams sutter type player, but I don’t see it as we already got zadorov 
			
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Doubt Manson would waive for Calgary if he wouldn't for Winnipeg.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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