2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Of those players you listed , other than Faulk , can you honestly say that any of them are 1st line /1st pairing players? Eric Stall is turning into a 2nd line center. Jordan is like Backlund (2b/3a center). Skinner with his head injuries is a 2nd line player. Lindholm is going to be great, but he's not there yet.

Eric Staal is a very good top line forward. He hasn't lost his game because his stats have fallen off a bit. He would be on Calgary's top line if not for the importance of developing Monahan.

If the cap hits were the same, you wouldn't trade Backlund for J. Staal in a heartbeat? I would, and I'm a Backlund fan. And Backlund is our #2C right now, and last year when we made the playoffs.

Skinner may have had some concussions but that doesn't mean those have permanently diminished his play. He had 33 goals in 2013-14 which is more than Hudler had last year. He had 18 goals last year which is more than Hudler had in 2013-14. At the very least he's a comparable player to Hudler, except stronger and a decade younger.

I'm not saying the Hurricanes are a great team, but I'm saying Hiller would have led them to a better record, Ramo a similar record, and Varlamov/Bobrovsky the playoffs in the East. Cam Ward is not as good as we think.

I will say you have convinced me that he is no better than a 1b goalie. He is still better than Ramo.

Ramo and Ward are interchangable. People are low on Ramo right now because he had two bad games and a bad last 5 minutes against the Jets. When Ramo was posting back-to-back shutouts last year, or carrying us through that east coast trip, or took Hiller's starting spot against the Ducks, people were not as low on Ramo. Under virtually the same larger sample size I just showed you that they're statistically comparable even when you look at the save percentages isolated by perimeter (low-danger) / home-plate (medium-danger) / crease (high-danger). Bad teams might allow more high-danger scoring chances but that doesn't mean goaltenders' save percentages against them change.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Ramo and Ward are interchangable. People are low on Ramo right now because he had two bad games and a bad last 5 minutes against the Jets. When Ramo was posting back-to-back shutouts last year, or carrying us through that east coast trip, or took Hiller's starting spot against the Ducks, people were not as low on Ramo. Under virtually the same larger sample size I just showed you that they're statistically comparable even when you look at the save percentages isolated by perimeter (low-danger) / home-plate (medium-danger) / crease (high-danger). Bad teams might allow more high-danger scoring chances but that doesn't mean goaltenders' save percentages against them change.

I remember when Ramo won his cup.... Wait, what?

[Crumpy-Gunt]

What does ward winning a cup as a rookie have to do with Ramo and he being about as useless as eachother right now. Bollig won a cup. So one can't say he's about as effective and interchanchable with a non cup winning 12th or 13th forward in his role?

[The Original FFIV]

So...back to rumors. Blackhawks might be interested in Smid but sending Bickell back.

I have heard they’ve been sniffing around ex-Oiler and current Calgary defenceman Ladislav Smid, who is close to coming back after a second neck surgery. He would be a very useful third-pairing guy if they could swap winger Bryan Bickell for him.

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/ho...t-duncan-keith

[Poe969]

lol they hawks would "swap Bickell" for anything at this point, it just doesn't make sense for the Flames to trade a decent stay at home guy for a guy like Bickell who has an anchor of a contract.

If they wanted Smid for Bickell, the deal would be bigger with both teams adding.

[sureLoss]

Friedman on 960 says a GM told him that he thought Wideman has been one of Calgary's best players. Same GM also said the problem with trading Wideman is which teams can handle his cap hit next year.

[Caged Great]

I'd take Smid or Engelland for Bickell at this point. As much as he is mediocre depth guy, the Flames could use his size up front and they wouldn't be adding much to the payroll, .500 in Smid's case.

With both Bouma and Ferland out for a month plus, that would also help in that regard.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Poe969

lol they hawks would "swap Bickell" for anything at this point, it just doesn't make sense for the Flames to trade a decent stay at home guy for a guy like Bickell who has an anchor of a contract.

If they wanted Smid for Bickell, the deal would be bigger with both teams adding.

Doesn't Bickell only make 500,000 more than Smid and for the same amount of time? Not sure why his deal is any more of an anchor than Smid's is.

I have been impressed with Smid in his first two games but would consider the deal because I think Bickell adds some size with some skill to the forwards. Although would make an already crowded forward group that much more crowded.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I'd take Smid or Engelland for Bickell at this point. As much as he is mediocre depth guy, the Flames could use his size up front and they wouldn't be adding much to the payroll, .500 in Smid's case.

With both Bouma and Ferland out for a month plus, that would also help in that regard.

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up happening.

With Brodie coming back the Flames just don't have enough space on the active roster for all these d-men, and I think they do want to have a look at what Nakladal can do at the NHL level as well.

Neither contract is that palatable, but at lease Bickell does provide some size up front which is badly needed with Bouma and Ferland potentially out long term.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

So...back to rumors. Blackhawks might be interested in Smid but sending Bickell back.

I'd do that deal. In terms of dollars it's pretty much a wash and with Brodie back soon Smid is a surplus asset. Chicago needs D depth and we need F depth with the injuries to Ferland/Bouma. Win-win for both sides.

[Vinny01]

Once Brodie comes back there will be either Smud or Engellend in the press box on a nightly basis. Combine that with Raymond and Ramo that is about $10M worth of cap space spent on players not playing on our team. If it is Engellend then all of those contracts were signed by Treliving. Hopefully he is able to move a body or 2 here to help clear the log jam and improve the team

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

So...back to rumors. Blackhawks might be interested in Smid but sending Bickell back.

I have heard they’ve been sniffing around ex-Oiler and current Calgary defenceman Ladislav Smid, who is close to coming back after a second neck surgery. He would be a very useful third-pairing guy if they could swap winger Bryan Bickell for him.

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/ho...t-duncan-keith

I probably do that deal but it sucks adding money to the cap even if it is $500k. I would love to send Bollig back to the Hawks but then the Hawks are adding to the deal as well.

At the end of the day I could see a 1 for 1 trade. Maybe Bollig+Engellend for Bickell?

[Poe969]

The deal could happen but why would the Flames do that if it were just 1 for 1? The hawks would rid themselves of Bickell who is essentially worthless on their team while getting a player that not only has value but that they actually need. Their contracts are the roughly the same that's true but Smid would end up playing and Bickell would likely be the 13th forward if that.

A deal could happen but it's clear that the hawks want to rid themselves of Bickell and they need D. If the Flames trade them Smid, I'd take Bickell but I'd want something else of value, someone who can help this team score and imipact the roster, for that to happen the Flames would have to add more too.

Smid for Bickell helps the hawks a lot more than it helps the Flames.

[Dajazz]

I'd love to see what Eric Staal could actually do on a good team again. Can't believe he's thirty already. Should be good for 20-30 goals and 50-60 points for a few more years, good in the dot, responsible two way forward - what's not to like EXCEPT the price tag, jeebus, well...

Not saying he's Flames material, but would be great to see him playing with some high end talent, not having to pull all the weight himself.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Poe969

The deal could happen but why would the Flames do that if it were just 1 for 1? The hawks would rid themselves of Bickell who is essentially worthless on their team while getting a player that not only has value but that they actually need. Their contracts are the roughly the same that's true but Smid would end up playing and Bickell would likely be the 13th forward if that.

A deal could happen but it's clear that the hawks want to rid themselves of Bickell and they need D. If the Flames trade them Smid, I'd take Bickell but I'd want something else of value, someone who can help this team score and imipact the roster, for that to happen the Flames would have to add more too.

Smid for Bickell helps the hawks a lot more than it helps the Flames.

a 5th to make it even?

[Flames_F.T.W]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

I'd love to see what Eric Staal could actually do on a good team again. Can't believe he's thirty already. Should be good for 20-30 goals and 50-60 points for a few more years, good in the dot, responsible two way forward - what's not to like EXCEPT the price tag, jeebus, well...

Not saying he's Flames material, but would be great to see him playing with some high end talent, not having to pull all the weight himself.

I've been thinking the same thing. He's a big, strong C and would look really great in our top 6 (as we're desperately lacking size and scoring in the top 6). However I can't for the life of me figure out a scenario where it would work or make sense (he's WAY overpaid, loves Carolina and playing with his bro, is 30 and a pending UFA who still expects big $$$)

[Ashasx]

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[heep223]

I would be gutted if we traded any of our d-men for Bickell. We have too many bottom 6 forwards as it is. We should be looking to trade a d-man and a bottom 6 forward for a 2nd line forward.

I wonder if Russell + one of Colborne/Stajan/Bouma could net a legit 2nd line C or winger? Don't get me wrong I really like all of those guys and would be sad, but we need another 50 point player.

[adc]

Originally Posted by Poe969

The deal could happen but why would the Flames do that if it were just 1 for 1? The hawks would rid themselves of Bickell who is essentially worthless on their team while getting a player that not only has value but that they actually need. Their contracts are the roughly the same that's true but Smid would end up playing and Bickell would likely be the 13th forward if that.

A deal could happen but it's clear that the hawks want to rid themselves of Bickell and they need D. If the Flames trade them Smid, I'd take Bickell but I'd want something else of value, someone who can help this team score and imipact the roster, for that to happen the Flames would have to add more too.

Smid for Bickell helps the hawks a lot more than it helps the Flames.

Couldn't the Hawks say the same thing?

Smid is likely to be in the PB when Brodie returns. Bickel offers the Flames the size they need.

I would doubt/hope that Bickel would not be the 13th forward. For me he would definitely play ahead of Bollig, Raymond, Ferland, Jooris if everyone is healthy.

[Yoho]

Bollig, and Raymond for sure but that still puts him around 13 spot.