Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PepsiFree]

Yeah, while I agree that far right “news” organizations like WS and Rebel are doing significant harm by spreading wild misinformation and deeply biased “reporting” and are an objective drain on society, I prefer that their collection of idiots get to ask their little questions while trying to push their little agenda and get absolutely embarrassed by the adults in the room.

WS did more damage to their credibility just by the way they asked the question and their follow up. Reminded me of the way calgarygeo and doctorfever pursue a line of questioning, now I see where they get it

[Fuzz]

I guess we'll just have to disagree, I think they should all be deported to Venezuela.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I guess we'll just have to disagree, I think they should all be deported to Venezuela.

Maybe Gaza instead? They all seem to know WAY too many people from socialist Venezuela.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Maybe Gaza instead? They all seem to know WAY too many people from socialist Venezuela.

I thought maybe they could get a group rate with Trump's deportation flights. They seem to deeply care about their plight, so may as well give them direct access to the deportees to get the real story of how many white girls they've raped and killed. Real journalist stuff, you know? And in the end they'll get to live in a paradise of heavy oil so they'll feel right at home.

[Fuzz]

LOL, gettin' desperate over there in the disinformation factories.

[surferguy]

Is there anyway that the RCMP can take a deep look into these groups funding?
This screams Russian misinformation to me.
Does Canada have misinformation laws. Sadly the Facebook dolts are gonna eat this up.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by 2ArmBands

http://https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/mark-carney-will-maintain-oil-and-gas-production-cap-environment-minister-says/

Mark Carney will maintain Oil and Gas production caps. This man certainly likes to say one thing and do another. Also pretty much plays for the Edmonton Oilers!

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Almost! But another lie.

They’ll maintain emissions caps in a cap and trade system, which based on a PBO report, will not only not-hinder production, but will lead to record production highs.

So close though. You almost got all of the two words right.

Maybe he won't go with the caps despite what his Minister said the other day. I'm starting to get the feeling that he is telling his team and Cabinet one thing while telling the public something else.

Carney says he'll work with oil and gas industry, says he opposes 'preset caps'

Prime Minister Mark Carney has suggested he may be willing to move away from emissions caps for the oil and gas industry in a shift from his predecessor, Justin Trudeau, whose government had begun the process to regulate greenhouse gas.

Speaking to reporters in Edmonton after meeting with Alberta Premier Danielle Smith Thursday, Carney was asked how he planned to counter the harmful effects of U.S. tariffs on the oil and gas industry, while also supporting an emissions cap.

Carney said he wanted to make Canada's energy sector more competitive by "working with industry and with provinces on specific ways to get those reductions, as opposed to — and last point which goes to your question — as opposed to having preset caps or preset restrictions on preset timelines."

The prime minister didn't elaborate, but his comments appear to contradict the federal Environment Minister he appointed days ago, Terry Duguid.

In a recent interview with The Canadian Press, Duguid said that, if elected, Carney would maintain the Liberals' proposed cap on emissions.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...ting-1.7489042

[Looch City]

The fact that not even Doug Ford is willing to be anywhere near PP says a lot.

Seriously, Pierre is so unlikable. If you don't have the backing and support of the CONSERVATIVE leader in power in Canada's most populous province, then wtf do you have?

He's a miniscule nothing. He's toast.

[Ashasx]

Ford did tweet this yesterday which is a little confusing after the report that he would not help out the federal Conservatives

https://twitter.com/user/status/1902834039871934759

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Ford just won a stonking majority in Canada’s most populous province by being a conservative populist - but a conservative populist of a very different stripe from Poilievre. He’s shown you can win elections as a conservative in Canada without embracing the MAGA-style politics of conspiracy, hyper-partisanship, and hatred.

It’s not clear to me how much of this is down to Poilievre’s personal politics, and how much is because the CPC has been captured at the grass roots by loons in a way the Ontario provincial Conservatives have not.

Ford basically does two things that makes him more electable in Ontario compared to other Conservatives:
1) Shuts down the loons in his party - kicks them out of his caucus or calls them out. Those types end up in parties that get tiny percentages of the vote and he gains voters in the rest of the province
2) Shows a willingness to work with and support the federal government that makes him look bipartisan/open minded


That's it. He still romps in all the rural ridings like other conservatives but he also can compete in the rest of the province. Also helps the Liberals/NDPs and even Greens can end up splitting votes in some ridings.

[Geraldsh]

Not to worry, if it’s a good idea PM Carney will preemptively announce it and then Ford will thank him for getting it done.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Ford did tweet this yesterday which is a little confusing after the report that he would not help out the federal Conservatives

I just assumed that when he said he wouldn't help out that means he won't actively campaign or loan out any organizational muscle (lists/staff/etc.).

Doug Ford strikes me as the kind of guy who wants to stick his thumb into every pie he comes across. So he'll probably promote any campaign promise that he likes regardless of the party making it.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Maybe he won't go with the caps despite what his Minister said the other day. I'm starting to get the feeling that he is telling his team and Cabinet one thing while telling the public something else.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...ting-1.7489042

I get the felling he's telling his team there is no set in stone barriers and he'll adapt to things as needed, given the situation we are in.

He seemingly is not getting stuck in ideology and actually looking at what makes sense; even if it's similar to what conservatives say.
How god damn refreshing.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I get the felling he's telling his team there is no set in stone barriers and he'll adapt to things as needed, given the situation we are in.

He seemingly is not getting stuck in ideology and actually looking at what makes sense; even if it's similar to what conservatives say.
How god damn refreshing.

Environment Minister says that Carney's government will maintain emissions cap and the next day Carney's says he is willing to move away from emissions caps. It is clear as mud what the Liberal plan is.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

LOL, gettin' desperate over there in the disinformation factories.

#### you CPC for not coming out against this type of ####.

[Fuzz]

Oh, the photo they are using of Carney with Epstein is a Grok AI(X, Xitter,Twitter, whatever) generated image. Just in case it pops up in your feed.

[getbak]

Is it just one of the many photos of Trump with Epstein Photoshopped to put Carney's face over Trump's?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I get the felling he's telling his team there is no set in stone barriers and he'll adapt to things as needed, given the situation we are in.

He seemingly is not getting stuck in ideology and actually looking at what makes sense; even if it's similar to what conservatives say.
How god damn refreshing.

No no no. That’s not how this works.

PP says something? Good
Carney actual does thing PP said? Bad!
A Liberal minister says something? Bad!
Carney says maybe we don’t do that thing? EVEN WORSE!

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Ford basically does two things that makes him more electable in Ontario compared to other Conservatives:
1) Shuts down the loons in his party - kicks them out of his caucus or calls them out. Those types end up in parties that get tiny percentages of the vote and he gains voters in the rest of the province
2) Shows a willingness to work with and support the federal government that makes him look bipartisan/open minded


That's it. He still romps in all the rural ridings like other conservatives but he also can compete in the rest of the province. Also helps the Liberals/NDPs and even Greens can end up splitting votes in some ridings.

Contrast Ford vs. Smith, and for me, he's way more palatable a conservative than Smith. PP feels like he's the same ilk as Smith, who I really despise as our premier.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

#### you CPC for not coming out against this type of ####.

LOL. Pretty sure this is something this PP and the ReformParty would put out.

FU Preston Manning and your lifeless corpse!